Engine Swap Dates
05-16-2014, 09:58 PM
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Another local GT3 owner showed up at a track day in a C2S loaner with a bunch of expensive options and mentioned that he got it without even specifically asking for a 911 and dealer is fine with him taking it to track days... Ironically, he got it from a dealer where I had a spot in line too - I just went with my current one to get the car sooner. Haha
05-16-2014, 11:09 PM
#377
Ok, I spoke with Ian. He was nice and very professional - told me after he got my voicemail, he could not leave for the weekend leaving me in such a distress :-). I appreciated that.
Anyway, to the point - he said my car was marked as returned via repurchase, and thus was put in a different queue. They will correct that, and I should get early July re-delivery like others who had their cars manufactured in November. Told me to expect a call with exact dates on Monday or Tuesday. I am very glad he called back before the weekend so that I do not have to keep worrying. He also mentioned that there were other customers whose cars were mis-categorized in a similar way, and their delivery dates are going to be corrected as well. I believe he meant IvanBurns.
Now I need to get a loaner because my daily is due for some service. Another battle to get some better loaner. My dealer does not give anything better than base Cayman, apparently.
Anyway, to the point - he said my car was marked as returned via repurchase, and thus was put in a different queue. They will correct that, and I should get early July re-delivery like others who had their cars manufactured in November. Told me to expect a call with exact dates on Monday or Tuesday. I am very glad he called back before the weekend so that I do not have to keep worrying. He also mentioned that there were other customers whose cars were mis-categorized in a similar way, and their delivery dates are going to be corrected as well. I believe he meant IvanBurns.
Now I need to get a loaner because my daily is due for some service. Another battle to get some better loaner. My dealer does not give anything better than base Cayman, apparently.
05-17-2014, 12:24 AM
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Ok, I spoke with Ian. He was nice and very professional - told me after he got my voicemail, he could not leave for the weekend leaving me in such a distress :-). I appreciated that.
Anyway, to the point - he said my car was marked as returned via repurchase, and thus was put in a different queue. They will correct that, and I should get early July re-delivery like others who had their cars manufactured in November. Told me to expect a call with exact dates on Monday or Tuesday. I am very glad he called back before the weekend so that I do not have to keep worrying. He also mentioned that there were other customers whose cars were mis-categorized in a similar way, and their delivery dates are going to be corrected as well. I believe he meant IvanBurns.
Now I need to get a loaner because my daily is due for some service. Another battle to get some better loaner. My dealer does not give anything better than base Cayman, apparently.
Anyway, to the point - he said my car was marked as returned via repurchase, and thus was put in a different queue. They will correct that, and I should get early July re-delivery like others who had their cars manufactured in November. Told me to expect a call with exact dates on Monday or Tuesday. I am very glad he called back before the weekend so that I do not have to keep worrying. He also mentioned that there were other customers whose cars were mis-categorized in a similar way, and their delivery dates are going to be corrected as well. I believe he meant IvanBurns.
Now I need to get a loaner because my daily is due for some service. Another battle to get some better loaner. My dealer does not give anything better than base Cayman, apparently.
Last edited by Mike in CA; 05-17-2014 at 12:34 PM. Reason: brain fart on Max's name....sorry
05-17-2014, 01:43 AM
#379
Racer
What's the deal with selling back the 14 and buying a 15? I understand you'll get the PCNA compensation, but how will this work for the dealership where you could actually come out ahead???
05-17-2014, 03:16 AM
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I have a loaded 50th anniversary car and you get sh*t. I guess you can rent a Kia crossover for hunsky..
Work it out and keep it on the DL
Calls, emails, calls, email. Word of the day is equitable! Good luck and I think you will get justice
05-17-2014, 02:32 PM
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I was told loaners are at the dealer's discretion and PCNA tells them that they can choose not to give one to you. If your dealer agrees to put a car into service, PCNA gives the dealer a lump sum (mine was $8,000.00 - amount may be universal). It must be a 911, though trim doesn't matter. I was given a base 911 Carrera cabriolet.
05-18-2014, 10:21 AM
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^ I am told the Dealer gets: $8k up front, $100/day, $2,500 to CPO the loaner when it is returned...and, I believe the Dealers get a depreciation amount based upon the mileage of the loaner.
Plus, the Dealer gets another allocation of a like-model, because it is considered a sale.
Plus, the Dealer gets another allocation of a like-model, because it is considered a sale.
05-18-2014, 10:28 AM
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^ I am told the Dealer gets: $8k up front, $100/day, $2,500 to CPO the loaner when it is returned...and, I believe the Dealers get a depreciation amount based upon the mileage of the loaner. Plus, the Dealer gets another allocation of a like-model, because it is considered a sale.
05-18-2014, 11:01 AM
#384
Race Director
Well, from my understanding, is that the person who took the Loaner must buy the GT3 for the Dealer to be kept more than whole. So, those of us with loaners are joined at the hip with our Dealers.
If it were not for the Loaner I would have opted out over a month ago. The Loaner, although not my Gt3, did by them time for me.
If it were not for the Loaner I would have opted out over a month ago. The Loaner, although not my Gt3, did by them time for me.
05-18-2014, 12:10 PM
#385
Drifting
Well, from my understanding, is that the person who took the Loaner must buy the GT3 for the Dealer to be kept more than whole. So, those of us with loaners are joined at the hip with our Dealers.
If it were not for the Loaner I would have opted out over a month ago. The Loaner, although not my Gt3, did by them time for me.
If it were not for the Loaner I would have opted out over a month ago. The Loaner, although not my Gt3, did by them time for me.
05-18-2014, 12:17 PM
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Hmmm, this is a good find guys. By taking a loaner it gives your dealer more incentive to have you purchase the car for the B-team. I didn't ask for a loaner as I have no idea what the condition of this car is after sitting at the port for the last 6 months as well as my relationship with my dealership. They are the nicest guys. Otherwise, I would definitely take the loaner and make them discount the car at sign off. Oh well, I can't do this either. DAMN.
05-19-2014, 11:01 AM
#387
New engine date and additional info.
Call by Paula on May 15
Talk to Ian on May 19
VIN: 3327
Original production: early Dec but moved twice
Original delivery: January 31, revised to Feb 28, then to March 7
Engine scheduled to arrive in RI July 21
Scheduled delivery between August 11 and 18
Now for the Q&A
Disagreement on 'original delivery date': they ignore the 3 dates provided by dealer and gave me a March 14 date; non-negotiable
ECU changes: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently
PCCB noise-induced change: no info; will look into it
Screens for radiators: PCNA will try to clarify with PAG
Oil temp light: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently
Battery, tires, paint: some testing will be done at port and more at dealer. They will address anything that must be addressed to make the car 'new' and if we are not satisfied with a specific issue, they will address it
Who handles swap: swaps are handled by PAG and PCNA technicians at port
Call by Paula on May 15
Talk to Ian on May 19
VIN: 3327
Original production: early Dec but moved twice
Original delivery: January 31, revised to Feb 28, then to March 7
Engine scheduled to arrive in RI July 21
Scheduled delivery between August 11 and 18
Now for the Q&A
Disagreement on 'original delivery date': they ignore the 3 dates provided by dealer and gave me a March 14 date; non-negotiable
ECU changes: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently
PCCB noise-induced change: no info; will look into it
Screens for radiators: PCNA will try to clarify with PAG
Oil temp light: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently
Battery, tires, paint: some testing will be done at port and more at dealer. They will address anything that must be addressed to make the car 'new' and if we are not satisfied with a specific issue, they will address it
Who handles swap: swaps are handled by PAG and PCNA technicians at port
05-19-2014, 11:04 AM
#388
New engine date and additional info. Call by Paula on May 15 Talk to Ian on May 19 VIN: 3327 Original production: early Dec but moved twice Original delivery: January 31, revised to Feb 28, then to March 7 Engine scheduled to arrive in RI July 21 Scheduled delivery between August 11 and 18 Now for the Q&A Disagreement on 'original delivery date': they ignore the 3 dates provided by dealer and gave me a March 14 date; non-negotiable ECU changes: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently PCCB noise-induced change: no info; will look into it Screens for radiators: PCNA will try to clarify with PAG Oil temp light: PCNA trying to clarify with PAG but unable to confirm presently Battery, tires, paint: some testing will be done at port and more at dealer. They will address anything that must be addressed to make the car 'new' and if we are not satisfied with a specific issue, they will address it Who handles swap: swaps are handled by PAG and PCNA technicians at port
05-20-2014, 01:29 PM
#389
Burning Brakes
Looks like another change of plans from PCNA. When advised of my estimated New Motor arrival and completion dates for my GT3 last week, PCNA concierge advised my car would be picked up by my dealer at my home and then shipped by my dealer to Atlanta. Also told I must have both (2) Keys with the car, presumably for reprogramming. Yesterday my dealer E-mailed that his Porsche Zone Rep advised him that PCNA would be handling the entire pickup and my dealer would not be involved. Actually I prefer this as the fewer loadings and unloadings, the less chance for damage. No discussion yet on the return of my GT3 to my home, whether I have to pick it up from my dealer, shipped to my dealer, delivered to my home from PCNA or I have to go get it.
Obviously the engine change logistics are a work in progress as the sites are widely dispersed.
Anyone hear anything different on deliveries either pre or post new engine?
Obviously the engine change logistics are a work in progress as the sites are widely dispersed.
Anyone hear anything different on deliveries either pre or post new engine?
05-20-2014, 01:31 PM
#390
Drifting
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Looks like another change of plans from PCNA. When advised of my estimated New Motor arrival and completion dates for my GT3 last week, PCNA concierge advised my car would be picked up by my dealer at my home and then shipped by my dealer to Atlanta. Also told I must have both (2) Keys with the car, presumably for reprogramming. Yesterday my dealer E-mailed that his Porsche Zone Rep advised him that PCNA would be handling the entire pickup and my dealer would not be involved. Actually I prefer this as the fewer loadings and unloadings, the less chance for damage. No discussion yet on the return of my GT3 to my home, whether I have to pick it up from my dealer, shipped to my dealer, delivered to my home from PCNA or I have to go get it. Obviously the engine change logistics are a work in progress as the sites are widely dispersed. Anyone hear anything different on deliveries either pre or post new engine?