Originally Posted by F1CrazyDriver

Mike in CA, i respect you, but i need to take you out for a beer brother so you can get this nightmare out of your mind. Mike, either your being delusional or drinking the Porsche kool-aid.

Originally Posted by 996FLT6

So why PAG's change in heart this time? I have a hard time seeing this change unless there are more suckas in this world. Please explain they were sorry and helping u poor folk out. Mike

Originally Posted by hf1

I didn't mean to imply that they could be BS-ing about the engine replacement (as in lying that they are replacing them?). They could have been honest about there being a problem and about their intent to fix it by replacing all engines. What they'd have a huge problem admitting would be that the "fix" may not be as robust as it would have been had they had a year to solve it, or admitting that perhaps they may have overstretched with their claims to 475hp and 9000rpm rev limit about the engine. I'm not saying that this is the case at all (have no basis for making such a claim), but in the (small) chance that it may be the case, they'd have no choice but to act the way they've been acting so far -- roll the dice with the best "fix" they could come up under the circumstances and pray for the best. It's a (non-negligible) risk that would have entered my equation if I was an owner.

Originally Posted by GJ

So why hasn't Porsche explained exactly what the issue is? Wouldn't it be most prudent for them to get this information disclosed? Non disclosure agreement with supplier? An assembly issue they are too embarrassed to disclose. Maybe they don't really know and are taking an educated guess on the issue? Maybe they are still working on the issue and just stalling us with all their smoke screen methods of communication to buy time?

Originally Posted by Arth

i forgot to add. we also discussed returning the car and they are willing to give full cash back anytime if i decide i do not like the compensation packages cheers

Originally Posted by Arth

ok so I met with the person in charge today. ill start by saying the meeting went well and they were very understanding of the situation and kept insisting that it was the dealers main priority to make sure that all 2014 GT3 owners are to be made happy with the compensation no matter what. below are the questions i asked and the answers with what information was available at date: I started by asking about changing to a 2015 car: 1. Are there allocation available for the 2015 model year GT3 answer: yes we will have allocations for 2015 cars( this might not apply everywhere as the UAE has the biggest selling dealer in the world) 2. when can an order be placed for a 2015 model year answer: in the next 2 to 3 weeks they will be open for ordering 3. will there be a price increase for 2015 model years: answer: yes there will be but we don't know how much. 4. if i decide to trade for a 2015 would i have to pay the extra increase in price? answer: we will as a special case try to keep the price the same for you if you decide to go for a 2015, but its not guaranteed. 5. will i be reimbursed for for my Xpel on the 2014 car. answer:we will look into it and hopefully we can take care of that. 6. will i be able to keep the loaner while i wait for the 2015 car? answer:its something we will look into but its possible. 7. when do you expect delivery of the 2015 cars? answer: around october/november but maybe as early as september. she then mentioned without me asking that they will also a sort of compensation for the delayed time(extra warranty, service, expel ,etc)reimbursement even if i decide to go for the 2015 car but obviously no "cash back" inconvenience package as it is effectively a new car being ordered. we then went on to speak about my current 2014 car and below is how it went: 1. whats the timeline on getting the car back with the new engine? are we looking at around june? answer: I don't see it going that far but so far we have no news on the timeline. in maximum two weeks we will have all the details. but i believe you will have your car back by maximum sometime in May. the longer it takes to get your car back the more the compensation will be. 2.what kind of compensation are we looking at? i went on to mention that some people are getting cash back per day without the car as well as warranty and a loaner: answer: we haven't submitted a package template yet to PAG. We are waiting to see what they come up with first but we have unofficially spoken with them and insisted that this market and the GT3 buyers in particular are our top tier buyers and we have to keep them happy. we would like two sort of packages for compensation: A.Compensation packages which might include: extra years of warranty, free services, etc.. B. Inconvenience package which might include: cash back that would consider/cover things like " 2014 year devaluation due to 2015 years being around the corner, insurance refund, price devaluation in the market when reselling due to motor being replaced, costs to missing track event that were paid for, general loss of time and extra waiting etc". we talked for a bit later and i asked about the RS. NO NEWS is what the response i got. It will be delayed for a while. it was mentioned many times that they( including the CEO of the dealership) travelled specifically to spain this past week for the Maccan launch there to make sure they had the chance to speak with the Mueller and all the rest of the top dogs at PAG to inform them that they need really take care of us GT3 customers with these packages. i left feeling confident and quite happy about the meeting. it was very positive. I do not know how accurate this information is or if it applies to all regions but i feel at least here things are being done the right way. only time will tell. 2 more weeks! hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Arth

7. when do you expect delivery of the 2015 cars?
answer: around october/november but maybe as early as september.

Originally Posted by Arth

i forgot to add.

we also discussed returning the car and they are willing to give full cash back anytime if i decide i do not like the compensation packages

cheers

Originally Posted by silverrules

Thanks Arth for the update. This is encouraging. IMHO its better to have a 2015 in Sept/OCT with clean bill of health rather than a 2014 that's been sitting under the sun at the port for 2-3 months and of course all its gut taken out by a tech. Unless the comp is in the $25K range its better to take the 2015 and if not, oh well. Life moves on.