Stop Sale?
03-22-2014, 12:54 AM
#3256
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03-22-2014, 01:38 AM
#3257
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03-22-2014, 02:22 AM
#3258
Race Director
03-22-2014, 04:52 AM
#3259
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Thanks Mike. I hope so to. I don't think it will ever fill the GT3 shoes but at least something to use for the track for now, and also a fall back, in the slim chance Porsche does not do right by us. I am a Porsche die hard fan, so I have great faith in them to do the right thing. Mark
03-22-2014, 07:12 AM
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Thanks Mike. I hope so to. I don't think it will ever fill the GT3 shoes but at least something to use for the track for now, and also a fall back, in the slim chance Porsche does not do right by us. I am a Porsche die hard fan, so I have great faith in them to do the right thing. Mark
Such a great car but I'll be honest I didn't get out thinking " ok I want this instead I my Gt3"
It is blisteringly fast though.
A friend of mine tracked one hard though and told me that after 3 to 4 laps the temperature gauge started to rise so I'm not sure you'll be able to track it hard for very long Sessions.
It might be just the heat here in the UAE
Enjoy in good health and pics when you get it
03-22-2014, 08:21 AM
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+1.
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
03-22-2014, 10:29 AM
#3264
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More like a disaster waiting to happen. On a hot day, the MP4-12C will heat soak like crazy after a few laps due to the heat from the twin turbos. The 458 will be much better due to the normally aspirated engine, but I am not sure the 458 is a hard core track car.
03-22-2014, 10:44 AM
#3265
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As I wrote before, the market (demand) will be the most important factor determining the compensation offered by PAG. As both owners and potential owners keep gushing about how irreplaceable the car is, PAG can offer whatever they want and give full refunds to anyone that rejects the deal. Then they sell them at msrp or a small loss to the hungry, clamoring masses. Ironically, the more people "defend" the car and PAG the worse deal they are likely to get.
03-22-2014, 12:39 PM
#3266
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As I wrote before, the market (demand) will be the most important factor determining the compensation offered by PAG. As both owners and potential owners keep gushing about how irreplaceable the car is, PAG can offer whatever they want and give full refunds to anyone that rejects the deal. Then they sell them at msrp or a small loss to the hungry, clamoring masses. Ironically, the more people "defend" the car and PAG the worse deal they are likely to get.
03-22-2014, 12:41 PM
#3267
Burning Brakes
Mine did too last wednesday... then it went blank on all dates and said "V170 PAG Handling Necessary". That was all. Nothing else.
03-22-2014, 12:58 PM
#3268
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03-22-2014, 01:09 PM
#3269
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
03-22-2014, 01:40 PM
#3270
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I don't think that is how it will be handled. The Porsche dealers will 'quietly' buy any gt3 back from those that choose to go that route and then re-sell to new customers as legitimate used cars. No questions, no problems - you get your money back & they get the gt3 back! Porsche will take care of the dealers in the 'back end' if there is any 'financial losses' in the re-sale of these cars. We don't yet know what the market will be for these cars...there might not be significant losses involved. The cars will have clean titles. These are not 'lemons' per se and PCNA will tell dealers to avoid 'Lemon Law' process at all costs. There will be no need for 'Manufacturer Buy-Back' titles in this case.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel