Stop Sale?
03-19-2014 | 07:29 AM
#2956
Racer
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 284
Likes: 64
From: UK
Porsche AG press release: "Porsche to replace engines of current 911 GT3 models"
Porsche AG press release: "Porsche to replace engines of current 911 GT3 models"
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(18 March 2014)
Stuttgart. Sports car manufacturer Porsche will be replacing the engines of all 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014. This is the corrective action derived from intensive internal analyses that were initiated in response to two engine fires. Meanwhile, it has been confirmed that engine damage resulted from a loosened screw joint on the connecting rod. The loose connecting rod damaged the crankcase, which in both cases led to leakage of oil which then ignited.
After becoming aware of the two accident cases, Porsche promptly took action to avoid any risk to customers by advising them to cease using the affected 785 vehicles until further notice and have them picked up by a Porsche Centre. Now, engines with optimised screw fittings will be used in all Porsche 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014 – including in those that have not been delivered yet. The relevant Porsche Centres are in direct communication with customers worldwide to discuss the further course of action.
Porsche points out that no other 911 models or other model series are affected by this action.
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(18 March 2014)
Stuttgart. Sports car manufacturer Porsche will be replacing the engines of all 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014. This is the corrective action derived from intensive internal analyses that were initiated in response to two engine fires. Meanwhile, it has been confirmed that engine damage resulted from a loosened screw joint on the connecting rod. The loose connecting rod damaged the crankcase, which in both cases led to leakage of oil which then ignited.
After becoming aware of the two accident cases, Porsche promptly took action to avoid any risk to customers by advising them to cease using the affected 785 vehicles until further notice and have them picked up by a Porsche Centre. Now, engines with optimised screw fittings will be used in all Porsche 911 GT3 vehicles of model year 2014 – including in those that have not been delivered yet. The relevant Porsche Centres are in direct communication with customers worldwide to discuss the further course of action.
Porsche points out that no other 911 models or other model series are affected by this action.
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Porsche to replace engines of current 911 GT3 models -- Porsche press release
03-19-2014 | 08:22 AM
#2957
Drifting
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 3,131
Likes: 7
From: Dallas, TX
Let me get this straight:
1. 991GT3 owners get a courtesy cars while they can't drive their cars
2. New motors with warranties will be installed
3. There will be some sort of compensation package.
Maybe I'm missing something, maybe I'm a glass half full kinda guy or have my shades on, but this sounds like Porsche is really trying to fix the issue & take care of their customers. Yes it sucks, but there are many others things that I'd be more upset about.
Also if the car didn't get such great reviews there would be a mass sale/return. But, everyone who has driven it is submitted....
Time to move on....
1. 991GT3 owners get a courtesy cars while they can't drive their cars
2. New motors with warranties will be installed
3. There will be some sort of compensation package.
Maybe I'm missing something, maybe I'm a glass half full kinda guy or have my shades on, but this sounds like Porsche is really trying to fix the issue & take care of their customers. Yes it sucks, but there are many others things that I'd be more upset about.
Also if the car didn't get such great reviews there would be a mass sale/return. But, everyone who has driven it is submitted....
Time to move on....
+1.
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
03-19-2014 | 10:25 AM
#2958
Rennlist Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,116
Likes: 47
From: Dallas
Paint Correction is a term invented by high end detailers to move money from your wallet to their wallet. They claim a lot of high end cars have significant paint defects, and charge thousands of Dollars to "correct" the defects in the paint of your new car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
03-19-2014 | 10:38 AM
#2959
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 65
From: North Carolina
Paint Correction is a term invented by high end detailers to move money from your wallet to their wallet. They claim a lot of high end cars have significant paint defects, and charge thousands of Dollars to "correct" the defects in the paint of your new car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
03-19-2014 | 10:56 AM
#2960
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,011
Likes: 8
From: Hunt Valley, MD
03-19-2014 | 11:08 AM
#2961
Racer
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 281
Likes: 2
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Paint Correction is a term invented by high end detailers to move money from your wallet to their wallet. They claim a lot of high end cars have significant paint defects, and charge thousands of Dollars to "correct" the defects in the paint of your new car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
Most good detailers can accomplish the same thing for far less money (around $300) with a full detail of your car.
03-19-2014 | 11:37 AM
#2962
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,743
Likes: 8
From: SoCal
Agree, but when you get into removing a layer of clear-coat, it gets complicated, and in my opinion, more of an art form. I had the paint completely ruined on one of my cars due to a detailer claiming he knew what he was doing. Fortunately is was a well used less expensive car. On the other hand, there are two new young guys here in Scottsdale that are amazing. You can check them out at http://scottsdalecardetailing.com. I have not used them yet but have several friends that have. Their work is amazing. Hoping I can get my cars in soon.
Like mechanics / techs and tuning shops--not all are created equal.
03-19-2014 | 11:55 AM
#2963
Racer
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 338
Likes: 1
From: Cumming, GA
Guys....do you really want your brand new car "paint corrected" (love that term for overpriced polishing to get your paint flat as it should have been anyway).... To skim off a layer of paint (which is what you are doing)? As it is now, there is not much there to work with anyway and typically a last resort for car finishes that have not been cared for over time.
03-19-2014 | 12:05 PM
#2964
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,743
Likes: 8
From: SoCal
Guys....do you really want your brand new car "paint corrected" (love that term for overpriced polishing to get your paint flat as it should have been anyway).... To skim off a layer of paint (which is what you are doing)? As it is now, there is not much there to work with anyway and typically a last resort for car finishes that have not been cared for over time.
Again--for those so inclined.
03-19-2014 | 12:25 PM
#2965
Rennlist Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,015
Likes: 1,059
From: ...PA...
Guys....do you really want your brand new car "paint corrected" (love that term for overpriced polishing to get your paint flat as it should have been anyway).... To skim off a layer of paint (which is what you are doing)? As it is now, there is not much there to work with anyway and typically a last resort for car finishes that have not been cared for over time.
03-19-2014 | 12:25 PM
#2966
Racer
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 281
Likes: 2
From: Scottsdale, AZ
03-19-2014 | 12:31 PM
#2967
Rennlist Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 13,729
Likes: 1,958
From: Wishing I Was At The Track
Have a read: http://www.autopia.org/forum/topic/1...ique-car-care/
This was on my new at the time 2010 RS that was garaged from day one and didn't have an extended stay at port.
This was on my new at the time 2010 RS that was garaged from day one and didn't have an extended stay at port.
03-19-2014 | 12:37 PM
#2968
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,743
Likes: 8
From: SoCal
Have a read: http://www.autopia.org/forum/topic/1...ique-car-care/ This was on my new at the time 2010 RS that was garaged from day one and didn't have an extended stay at port.
03-19-2014 | 12:52 PM
#2969
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,650
Likes: 8
From: Atlanta
+1.
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
To be honest the more I think about it the more I'm realising that things are going pretty well considering the circumstances.
It's unfortunate what has happened of course, but after having driven the car and with what I know so far( as mentioned above) I will not be giving this car back for a 2015.
Reasons
1. This car is amazing to drive
2. This car is amazing to drive
3. From what I've heard the 2015 will be getting a price increase( at least here in the middle east). I certainly don't want to be paying more.
4. 2015 allocations might be delayed due to all that is going on. We are in march and you still can't place an order for a 2015. Usually this would be he month you place an order to receive your car in August/September as a 2015 model year. I'm not going to wait another year ( if not more) to get a car that is basically the same as a 2014.
5. Will I even be able to get an allocation for a 2015. some are saying there might be a smaller run of 2015 production due to the issues and delays with the 2014 as well as the added costs porsche have had to now endure with the engine rebuilding and air freighting all around the world.
6.after speaking with the head service manager here he told me that changing the engine would take a total of around 4 hours. It's so easy with these new cars, it's plug and play. He said if he gets the engine in the morning I'll be driving the car in the afternoon.
8. With the extended warranty I can drive this car for 6 years with no worries. The 2015 will only come with 2 years.
7. Did I mention this car is amazing to drive!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot we don't know about how many 2015 allocations are going to be set and when as well.
We don't know if they will be delayed or released earlier, but I'm not willing to take that risk.
I have a car, that's perfect in every way to me.no way I'm letting her go.
I know many if you will not agree but this is my view on the subject having owned and driven the car for 3 weeks both on the track and on the public roads
I really do believe the people who have bailed will regret it in the long run.
Oh yeh, did I mentions this car is amazing to drive
Cheers
Thanks!
03-19-2014 | 12:54 PM
#2970
Rennlist Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 13,729
Likes: 1,958
From: Wishing I Was At The Track
No worries. I had no idea what was involved in proper prep and consider myself lucky to have stumbled upon Rick at Unique Auto Care. Highly recommend these guys for anyone in the Boston area.