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Katrina from customer relations called me today and I asked her what if the testing during the next three weeks is not favorable and her response was they are done with testing and things are moving now meaning engines being built. Not sure who to believe now as the letter said they are testing at this time. What am I missing here?
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I finally got a chance to read the previous link. That was a great read. Thanks. Exactly what I want/need when my gt3 gets here....
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With all the main stream media attention this is now getting, Porsche needs to not fumble this again. Piecing articles together, I had assumed testing was done. I think the last few posts are reliable...
Now I sit and wait for April 4th and see if it shipped....
In my case I don't expect another update until it ships.
Now I sit and wait for April 4th and see if it shipped....
In my case I don't expect another update until it ships.
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If Porsche issues a 175 euro=242 usd per day payment, it would be a good idea to move quickly. If 50.00 usd is the payment, we will never see our cars.
I think Porsche is doing the right thing.
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Not that it means anything, but my car has an actual V270 date of February 17, and a projected V300 date of March 28th. This was updated as of today. So my car has been sitting awaiting engine and transmission for the past 30 days.
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The depreciation hit will come close or even moreso when the switch from 993 to 996 ie motor change if another issue transpires after engine swap. I don't think I could stomach a 50% depreciation hit when I can buy used at half the price or more. Mike
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With all the main stream media attention this is now getting, Porsche needs to not fumble this again. Piecing articles together, I had assumed testing was done. I think the last few posts are reliable... Now I sit and wait for April 4th and see if it shipped.... In my case I don't expect another update until it ships.
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I started reading this thread from the beginning to refresh my memory of the early days of this issue. I believe that aamersa's post (#179 on 2/14) was the first to get close to the right answer. He caught a lot of flak over it.
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I had a chat with a buddy of mine last night who's a mechanic at the local dealer. He's very knowledgeable, probably one of the best Porsche mechanics in Charlotte and a true MECHANIC...engine and tranny builds are no big deal to him.
He said that rod bolt failures are way more common than you would think. Lots of the race engine builders have issues with them, like the big teams. Surprisingly, so do some of the race engines that come directly from Porsche (and other manufacturers). Few years back, one of the Grand Am teams went through 3 motors at Daytona 24 in practices before one let go 4 hours into the actual race...each time, rod bolt failure. Thing is, we never hear about this stuff, these are RACE engines, stuff happens...
Technically, what you guys are getting is as close to a full blown race engine as you can 'street legally' get. So, as he said, you can't expect it to be as "perfect" and trouble free as a normal street car. It's not normal. I pushes the boundries because that's what you (we) all want. You can't have both. You want loads of hp? You want 9k RPM? You want perfection in driving? Sure...but at what cost?
Any of you ever drive a Porsche cup car? My understanding is that is as close to the perfection of the drive as you get in the 991GT3 - instant power, exceptional handling, lightning fast shift response, etc. but with creature comforts, nice interior, softer suspension, more 'quiet' etc....But....cup engines are meant to be rebuilt after 50 hours. Can't do that for street cars, so....
You are buying a street legal race car. Race cars have mechanical failures, get used to it....
He said that rod bolt failures are way more common than you would think. Lots of the race engine builders have issues with them, like the big teams. Surprisingly, so do some of the race engines that come directly from Porsche (and other manufacturers). Few years back, one of the Grand Am teams went through 3 motors at Daytona 24 in practices before one let go 4 hours into the actual race...each time, rod bolt failure. Thing is, we never hear about this stuff, these are RACE engines, stuff happens...
Technically, what you guys are getting is as close to a full blown race engine as you can 'street legally' get. So, as he said, you can't expect it to be as "perfect" and trouble free as a normal street car. It's not normal. I pushes the boundries because that's what you (we) all want. You can't have both. You want loads of hp? You want 9k RPM? You want perfection in driving? Sure...but at what cost?
Any of you ever drive a Porsche cup car? My understanding is that is as close to the perfection of the drive as you get in the 991GT3 - instant power, exceptional handling, lightning fast shift response, etc. but with creature comforts, nice interior, softer suspension, more 'quiet' etc....But....cup engines are meant to be rebuilt after 50 hours. Can't do that for street cars, so....
You are buying a street legal race car. Race cars have mechanical failures, get used to it....
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Of course, no one who gave him flak has said "I am sorry, you were correct".