Stop Sale?
#1456
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again, this is in the Ford school of product defect resolution: count the cost per dead customer versus the cost of remedying all cars.)
Ford Pinto Crash Test - YouTube
Ford Pinto Crash Test - YouTube
http://www.engineering.com/Library/A...ord-Pinto.aspx
#1457
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Today, I had a real a bizarre incident. In the morning I went to the Porsche dealership to return the GT3 center lock wheel socket, that I purchased immediately after I got my GT3, because the salesman told me at the time, the 2014 GT3 is not supplied with the wheel socket and must be purchased separately. Couple of days later I discovered the socket that came with the car, I informed the salesman who was embarrassed and asked me to return it back and get a refund. So this morning I did that, and as I was about to get back into my car, to go home, I noticed a nice Shiny Red 2014 GT3 driving by. Of course this caught me by a surprise and I start thinking this owner got some *****, to defy Porsche orders of not driving the GT3, and right in front of their dealership and I had a big grin on my face. However I decided to follow the GT3 to take a closer look at the car. I followed the car for over a mile, feasting my eyes on this gorgeous machine, until I got much closer and noticed the car license plate, and realized this was my own GT3!
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
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Today, I had a real a bizarre incident. In the morning I went to the Porsche dealership to rerun the GT3 center lock wheel socket, that I purchased immediately after I got my GT3, because the salesman told me at the time, the 2014 GT3 is not supplied with the wheel socket and must be purchased separately. Couple of days later I discovered the socket that came with the car, I informed the salesman who was embarrassed and asked me to return it back and get a refund. So this morning I did that, and as I was about to get back into my car, to go home, I noticed a nice Shiny Red 2014 GT3 driving by. Of course this caught me by a surprise and I start thinking this owner got some *****, to defy Porsche orders of not driving the GT3, and right in front of their dealership and I had a big grin on my face. However I decided to follow the GT3 to take a closer look at the car. I followed the car for over a mile, feasting my eyes on this gorgeous machine, until I got much closer and noticed the car license plate, and realized this was my own GT3! At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership. Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick. At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job. Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info..... It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days. The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue. I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
But this is definitely a positive thing if inspections are starting.
Kind regards,
#1459
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mqandil.
Thats a very interesting development.
Could you enlighten us as to when you car was manufactured? If you dont know then when was it released from the factory or when did it hit US soil?
Thats a very interesting development.
Could you enlighten us as to when you car was manufactured? If you dont know then when was it released from the factory or when did it hit US soil?
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The exit production date for my car was November 24th 2013. The car arrived at the port of San Diego USA on December 26th 2013. I took position of the car on January 14th. Hope this helps
Just curious when was yours?
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Mar,
My exit date was 29 November 2013 so same week build as yours. I picked it up 04 Dec.
I have a strong suspicion your car and mine were not affected by an internal part failure. I suspect there is nothing wrong with our cars. hence the technical driving it. its possible they have been asked to replace a fixture or flash some new ECU software but clearly they havent opened the engine and there is no way the Tech would be driving that car on the public road if there was any concern from PAG at all that it would erupt into flames, threaten life and cause a PR disaster in USA. I think they knew that car was good before they set off on a test drive....just my hunch.
We live in hope!
My exit date was 29 November 2013 so same week build as yours. I picked it up 04 Dec.
I have a strong suspicion your car and mine were not affected by an internal part failure. I suspect there is nothing wrong with our cars. hence the technical driving it. its possible they have been asked to replace a fixture or flash some new ECU software but clearly they havent opened the engine and there is no way the Tech would be driving that car on the public road if there was any concern from PAG at all that it would erupt into flames, threaten life and cause a PR disaster in USA. I think they knew that car was good before they set off on a test drive....just my hunch.
We live in hope!
#1462
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Hopefully they are trying out a fix which is good. The alternative - they are trying to reproduce the problem - probably not so.
#1463
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Today, I had a real a bizarre incident. In the morning I went to the Porsche dealership to rerun the GT3 center lock wheel socket, that I purchased immediately after I got my GT3, because the salesman told me at the time, the 2014 GT3 is not supplied with the wheel socket and must be purchased separately. Couple of days later I discovered the socket that came with the car, I informed the salesman who was embarrassed and asked me to return it back and get a refund. So this morning I did that, and as I was about to get back into my car, to go home, I noticed a nice Shiny Red 2014 GT3 driving by. Of course this caught me by a surprise and I start thinking this owner got some *****, to defy Porsche orders of not driving the GT3, and right in front of their dealership and I had a big grin on my face. However I decided to follow the GT3 to take a closer look at the car. I followed the car for over a mile, feasting my eyes on this gorgeous machine, until I got much closer and noticed the car license plate, and realized this was my own GT3!
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
I do find this weird though. You pay this much for a car and they can't/won't tell you what is or may be going on with it?
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WTF??? Again, this is acceptable behavior and a prudent way to treat customers after they have dropped 150k and they OWN the car?? People accept this type of behavior?
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Today, I had a real a bizarre incident. In the morning I went to the Porsche dealership to rerun the GT3 center lock wheel socket, that I purchased immediately after I got my GT3, because the salesman told me at the time, the 2014 GT3 is not supplied with the wheel socket and must be purchased separately. Couple of days later I discovered the socket that came with the car, I informed the salesman who was embarrassed and asked me to return it back and get a refund. So this morning I did that, and as I was about to get back into my car, to go home, I noticed a nice Shiny Red 2014 GT3 driving by. Of course this caught me by a surprise and I start thinking this owner got some *****, to defy Porsche orders of not driving the GT3, and right in front of their dealership and I had a big grin on my face. However I decided to follow the GT3 to take a closer look at the car. I followed the car for over a mile, feasting my eyes on this gorgeous machine, until I got much closer and noticed the car license plate, and realized this was my own GT3!
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
At this point the grin turned into concern, and started to wonder if this guy driving my car and who is defying Porsche orders, stole my car from the dealership.
Shall I try to stop him on my own? Or shall I call the police? Or shall I just follow him? And should I even make him aware that he can go up in flames and burn down to the ground with the car. Hmmmm I had to make a decision quick.
At the traffic light I pulled next to the car to take a look at the driver and recognized him immediately. He was one of the Porsche technicians and he also recognized me as well. He lowered the window and proceeded to tell me he is taking the car for a test drive, and I asked him why. He said he can't share too much details with me, but my car is flagged for an inspection, and he is not authorized to share more information. I tried to press him for more details but he kept saying he does not want to lose his job.
Very unusual and especially I know this technician very well, but he was not willing to share more info.....
It is kind of funny incident since I was chasing my own car..... But it appears some of the dealerships, may have already received some instructions or plans for an inspection or may be even a fix. Let's hope so... We should know more in few days.
The technician was terrified of sharing any info with me, which supports the speculations of many about the role of the attorneys in this issue.
I thought this incident is worth sharing with you.
He could have easily shared all the details of what he was doing and if you're enough of a douche to use that information against him, he could just deny it and say you're a crazy rennlister.
Something is fishy but hopefully the guy was being sincere and was just following orders.
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I would find this entirely unacceptable. You OWN the car! If someone is driving my car, that I OWN, I am entitled to an explanation as to WHY. At least that's the way I think. If they can't tell me WHY they find it necessary to put miles on a car that I own, then they write me a check, on the spot, for a full refund. If you have no say over what happens to (and who drives) your car, then in theory, you no longer own it. In which case, a check should be written to you on the spot. ENTIRELY unacceptable.