hf1

No it won't. The one linked is a Mezger engine which is much tougher to fit into a 987/981. The 991 GT3 engine is based on the 3.8 DFI so it should be a plug and play to fit into a 981 as Deman and BGB have already been doing (with 3.8 DFI). Only hurdle for fitting a 991 GT3 engine, so far, had been Porsche's reluctance to sell the GT3 engine separately, which may now change as they'll need to find homes for 750 refurbished units. If I was BGB or Deman I'd start inquiring about those units right now. I'm sure the engines would come with a powertrain warranty, just like any other Porsche OEM engine.

EDIT: Or better yet, Porsche themselves could make a limited batch of "refurbished" and stripped 2700lbs 500 Cayman GT3 and 250 Boxster GT3 and sell them for $100k a pop. (One can dream...)

Mike in CA

I remember that post and the comments that followed, fbirch. No factual information was ever provided as a follow-up and the poster did disappear. Maybe we scared him away.

I was told that this current issue had not surfaced at any point in the testing and I believe my source. You can take it with a grain of salt. But more to the point, if such an event actually happened in the hands of journalists testing the car as the poster claimed, why did nothing from those alleged journalists ever appear in print or leak out anywhere else except from one guy on an internet forum? That was the question at the time and it's still a valid one, IMHO.

Rumors and reports have sprung up about various disasters with the valve train, con rods, bearings, PDK-S, RWS, oil coolers, brackets, what have you. If you throw enough stuff against the wall, something might even stick. The notion that Porsche knew there was a specific problem in advance, put the engine into production anyway, and then spent over a month pretending to investigate the known failure to fool the public while getting chewed up in the press and social media is tin-hat conspiracy theory stuff.

TRAKCAR

But what if we do a group buy? Surely they can build them cheaper by the couple dozen?

Yup, I remember!

chuckbdc

Boxter GTS/Re

KINGSRULE

If its rod bolts, can't you just drop the pan and replace them?
If so, it seems like a real tidy repair.......

A432

Drop the pan?

Bluehinder

Why not just explain instead of being a dick.

A432

lol, lighten up francis, it was funny.

sunnyr

Mike, I don't think anyone is saying they are pretending to investigate. Bear with me a plausible scenario - Porsche knew about an issue. They delayed the production to investigate but couldn't find the root cause in a timely manner. So decided to go ahead with production probably because the probability of the failure was very low and something they figured they could handle more cost effectively through a warranty repair (wouldn't be the first time a car manufacturer did this). And the failures happen with customer cars with very low probability, but except with catastrophic consequence - the fires. So now it becomes imperative to find the root cause and a fix. And the stop sale and the don't drive directive.

Yes, speculation but definitely sounds like plausible explanation to me of what happened/is happening and more than a tin-hat conspiracy. Of course, just my 2c, I have absolutely have no inside source unlike many others here.

JasonAndreas

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Mike in CA

sunnyr, we can probably invent scenarios and debate this back and forth forever, and knowing the forum we probably will.

The fundamental question I would ask is, what evidence do we have that Porsche "knew about an issue"? Why even begin with that assumption? Because some guy on an internet forum started a rumor about a failure that was completely unsubstantiated, and not even reported by the very journalists who he said were testing the car when it occurred? I can make all kinds of specific predictions about what the market will do this year and one of them might even come true. Doesn't mean I know what I'm talking about.

Sometimes stuff just happens. Rather than believing that Porsche purposely took a risk and tried to slide by with a known issue in one of their halo cars, it makes more sense to me that a faulty part or manufacturing defect caused an unexpected and difficult to find problem. Maybe I'm wrong, but if we're going to compare plausible explanations my personal 2 cents is, that seems a simpler and more straightforward one.

0Q991

+1 on this. I just can't imagine why they would risk lives and their hard earned reputation to what? Sell a few hundred cars early? In the grand scheme of things the GT cars are not a major component of revenue nor earnings. BUT that customer base is among the most ardent. To risk this purposely makes far less sense (especially when the changes to the GT3 were already shall we say "controversial") than a QC issue.

sgroer

This video has been therapeutic through all this.... I've probably watched it 15 times when I felt the cloud of doubt hanging over me.

myphillylawyer

That's right Nick. The manufacturer is considered to have a lemon if they have been given three attempts to repair and have been unsuccessful OR that's right or the vehicle has been out of commission for 30 days or more. I suppose if the consumer hid the car under a rock for 30 days the manufacturer would have a good defense to the claim. However, the manufacturer doesn't get a free pass for going beyond the 30 days because that can't figure it the f*** out.
Furthermore in PA we have a pretty decent consumer protection and fraud statute. If Porsche were determined to have intentionally or even recklessly allowed their product to be sold with a known defect they could be held to pay treble damages and attorney's fees.

As I said earlier I have plenty of cars to drive and I have plenty of patience. When it's here its here. I will welcome my GT3 into the fold with open arms and I know that Porsche will stand behind her and if they don't I'll punish them without mercy.

R.Deacon

Thanks for posting ,had seen it some time ago,
Refreshingly outstanding !!!
a salesman at WPB P store today stated announcement 9am Monday , just sharing info here , I am not
claiming facts FWIW