Stop Sale?
03-15-2014, 10:03 PM
#2357
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Nick, I didn't mean to imply that they will be announcing specific compensation for individuals, but I do believe it is being discussed along with other details. I think the announcement Monday will be much more than a general "we're working on it" although it may not have commitments on exact dates.
I also think Clocked has it right. I know it's self-serving as I'm in group 1 but honestly, I think it only fair that people who have already paid for the car get first priority.
I also think Clocked has it right. I know it's self-serving as I'm in group 1 but honestly, I think it only fair that people who have already paid for the car get first priority.
I'm just hoping it doesn't delay build and delivery.
03-15-2014, 10:42 PM
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03-15-2014, 10:50 PM
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03-15-2014, 10:57 PM
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Anyway, hzoenvy33 is wrong. GT3 RSs have been spied with side intakes. So his 3 component air theory goes out the window. I do agree, however, that the RS will be NA. Very, very little chance that it'll be FA.
03-15-2014, 11:05 PM
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Ok so everyone remembered I cornered the highest person of Porsche motorsport at Daytona a few years back and got the whole scoop on the GT3. Well today at 7am I saw him in the garage and had a very enlightening chat. You guys know I've been negative on the new car but after speaking with this exceedingly high up person I am no longer worried about getting the car in the least!
1.The issue with the new engine is not a design issue it is a supply part issue. All will be told Monday. He was quite embarrassed as he said everyone involved is. But he repeatedly said "It wasn't a problem on our end"
2. The new GT3 motor was designed COMPLETELY in house (motorsport) and will 1000000% go into the next cup and possibly the RSR depending on how the new rules play out. I specifically said " You won't like this but people are hesitant to buy this car b/c the motor has not and does appear to be on any timeline". He responded that was I was completely wrong and the new GT3 motor is ABSOLUTELY the basis for the next NA motor for the CUP. He said the issue was developing a new DFI motor which would have been tremendously expensive had the FIA rules been changed. He specifically said I was "stupid" for not getting the car now. Which leads to the next point-the RS.
3. I specifically said turbo. He told me its very possible as it is allowed under the FIA rules and judging worldwide movement towards turbos it certainly will be stressed. He told me they have tested 2 motors. 4.1 liter 580 hp NA and a turbo motor. He obviously wouldn't tell me what the decision would be.
4. The RS will be 200k and loaded with extreme carbon bodywork and bespoke suspension.
1.The issue with the new engine is not a design issue it is a supply part issue. All will be told Monday. He was quite embarrassed as he said everyone involved is. But he repeatedly said "It wasn't a problem on our end"
2. The new GT3 motor was designed COMPLETELY in house (motorsport) and will 1000000% go into the next cup and possibly the RSR depending on how the new rules play out. I specifically said " You won't like this but people are hesitant to buy this car b/c the motor has not and does appear to be on any timeline". He responded that was I was completely wrong and the new GT3 motor is ABSOLUTELY the basis for the next NA motor for the CUP. He said the issue was developing a new DFI motor which would have been tremendously expensive had the FIA rules been changed. He specifically said I was "stupid" for not getting the car now. Which leads to the next point-the RS.
3. I specifically said turbo. He told me its very possible as it is allowed under the FIA rules and judging worldwide movement towards turbos it certainly will be stressed. He told me they have tested 2 motors. 4.1 liter 580 hp NA and a turbo motor. He obviously wouldn't tell me what the decision would be.
4. The RS will be 200k and loaded with extreme carbon bodywork and bespoke suspension.
03-15-2014, 11:09 PM
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If, and only if they need to re-do the engines..
after they build engines < 2 weeks. . Air freight, some logistics, and 8-9 hrs for dealer to install.
.. Hmm.. then we guess on whats happening at the factory.. I have no idea.. Never been there other then saw NAT GEO show on automation.. Looks awesome. between the engineers and the robots, it will be quik
after they build engines < 2 weeks. . Air freight, some logistics, and 8-9 hrs for dealer to install.
.. Hmm.. then we guess on whats happening at the factory.. I have no idea.. Never been there other then saw NAT GEO show on automation.. Looks awesome. between the engineers and the robots, it will be quik
03-15-2014, 11:18 PM
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If, and only if they need to re-do the engines..
after they build engines < 2 weeks. . Air freight, some logistics, and 8-9 hrs for dealer to install.
.. Hmm.. then we guess on whats happening at the factory.. I have no idea.. Never been there other then saw NAT GEO show on automation.. Looks awesome. between the engineers and the robots, it will be quik
after they build engines < 2 weeks. . Air freight, some logistics, and 8-9 hrs for dealer to install.
.. Hmm.. then we guess on whats happening at the factory.. I have no idea.. Never been there other then saw NAT GEO show on automation.. Looks awesome. between the engineers and the robots, it will be quik
03-16-2014, 12:19 AM
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True or False, at least the Sebring rep has given us something to chew on.
For you guys who have taken delivery, and those in production, I'm glad for you that we are closer to a resolution.
The 1 thing that keeps flashing through my mind, and I cannot get it to stop, is the bit of the Harris video where he questions, "How is Porsche going to keep it reliable to 9k rpm? I don't know, but they are Porsche, so I'm sure they will come up with something." and very clearly right after that sentence, there is an edit. Paraphrasing, of course. It reminded me of the E46 issues from 2000-2001.
For you guys who have taken delivery, and those in production, I'm glad for you that we are closer to a resolution.
The 1 thing that keeps flashing through my mind, and I cannot get it to stop, is the bit of the Harris video where he questions, "How is Porsche going to keep it reliable to 9k rpm? I don't know, but they are Porsche, so I'm sure they will come up with something." and very clearly right after that sentence, there is an edit. Paraphrasing, of course. It reminded me of the E46 issues from 2000-2001.
03-16-2014, 12:24 AM
#2370
As far as I can tell, I don't think CH has said anything about the stop sale / recall issue--and he comments pretty frequently on social media...
It is pretty interesting bc I'm sure he either knows something or has a strong opinion on the topic...but has remained silent.
It is pretty interesting bc I'm sure he either knows something or has a strong opinion on the topic...but has remained silent.