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Old 03-11-2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX
I now believe that Macca's source is probably right. Two people posted they got contacted for loaners a day or two before "the phone call". I'm still clinging to the hope that my car is good to go. My percentage estimate has now dropped from 25% to 5%, though.
I will hate the wait but a new engine is not a heart trasplant. F1 cars do it routinely. All race cars do it, none fail because of the new install. My mechanic told me it is easy. He also said that any proper conrod work, on the other hand, would be beyond any US mechanic's ability due to lack of training. My dealership, whcih services race cars, seem to always have some engine out of spec boxsters and spec 996. I am actually excited about a new engine, as we get to debate the break in period all over again.
Sam, you like the break in period? Are you serious?
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:44 PM
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I believe Macca and others said Wednesday for the news.
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by silverrules
Macca said we hear something today and ALL engines need replacement. Placerville Ca (Hangtown) is close by my house. I say we all meet there at noon tomorrow if Macca is wrong today
Ohhh. Today ?.. (Tuesday U.S. PST-- to lazy to google his timezone.. OK.. It's 2:43 AM Wed in Sidney.. (4:43 PM Tuesday in Stuttgart) when does he wake up for more updates.. LOL). Thought he said Wed.. -- Today would be better.. -- Placerville Ca.. sounds like some where between SF, and Taho.. LOL, ,bet it's a nice area to drive.
Old 03-11-2014 | 01:49 PM
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Formula one cars have 24/7 mechanics. Not a valid comparison.

I still haven't decide whether I will take the car with a new engine. I only outlined some of the issues.
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LateBrake911
Ohhh. Today ?.. (Tuesday U.S. PST-- to lazy to google his timezone.. OK.. It's 2:43 AM Wed in Sidney.. (4:43 PM Tuesday in Stuttgart) when does he wake up for more updates.. LOL). Thought he said Wed.. -- Today would be better.. -- Placerville Ca.. sounds like some where between SF, and Taho.. LOL, ,bet it's a nice area to drive.
I live in El DOrado Hills CA which is between San Fran and Tahoe Its a Small town. We do have nice roads around here and HWY 50 to Tahoe is priceless when its not snowing and Salmon fall road where I live has some nice twisty turns for like 10 miles and it continues on to HWY 49 (Gold rush area) and on. I specifically built my house here for the twisty road of Salmon Fall Road so that I can enjoy my bike and cars and family of course loves it here. You all need to come down for some beer and cigars and we can laugh about all this GT3 stuff. Cheers
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:03 PM
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Your area sounds awesome on my way!!
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by silverrules
Sam, you like the break in period? Are you serious?
I said debate not enjoy. I broke my car in over 300 miles. I will do same with new engine, especially that the PDK is all broken in.
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX
I now believe that Macca's source is probably right. Two people posted they got contacted for loaners a day or two before "the phone call". I'm still clinging to the hope that my car is good to go. My percentage estimate has now dropped from 25% to 5%, though. I will hate the wait but a new engine is not a heart trasplant. F1 cars do it routinely. All race cars do it, none fail because of the new install. My mechanic told me it is easy. He also said that any proper conrod work,on the other hand, would be beyond any US mechanic's ability due to lack of training. My dealership, whcih services race cars, seem to always have some engine out of spec boxsters and spec 996. I am actually excited about a new engine, as we get to debate the break in period all over again.

Exactly my point!
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:19 PM
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Talked to a Porsche mechanic yesterday he said he likes the way the Turbo PDK drives better than the GT3. Has anyone driven both cars and compared transmissions?
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX
I said debate not enjoy. I broke my car in over 300 miles. I will do same with new engine, especially that the PDK is all broken in.
-- I finally read the manual now that we have time.. and it said 2,000 mi, I thought.? but 0 in Europe.. Who knows.. I'll go read the break in forum.. I have 1k on mine, and want to do the 9k RPM.. but was waiting for 2k.. Ahhhh...
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by YOCOHO
Talked to a Porsche mechanic yesterday he said he likes the way the Turbo PDK drives better than the GT3. Has anyone driven both cars and compared transmissions?

Doubt it.


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Old 03-11-2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by YOCOHO
Talked to a Porsche mechanic yesterday he said he likes the way the Turbo PDK drives better than the GT3. Has anyone driven both cars and compared transmissions?
I did, on track and on road. It depends what are you looking for in a PDK. If you want a luxury feel that is smooth but not too quick, then yes, the Turbo's is better. If you want a near immediate response, aggressive shifts that are noticeably faster, then the GT3's wins hands down. I personally happen to prefer the GT3's and in my opinion, the PDK-S is in a league of its own.

Edit: The no creep function in the PDK-S is also more enjoyable.
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by silverrules
I live in El DOrado Hills CA which is between San Fran and Tahoe Its a Small town. We do have nice roads around here and HWY 50 to Tahoe is priceless when its not snowing and Salmon fall road where I live has some nice twisty turns for like 10 miles and it continues on to HWY 49 (Gold rush area) and on. I specifically built my house here for the twisty road of Salmon Fall Road so that I can enjoy my bike and cars and family of course loves it here. You all need to come down for some beer and cigars and we can laugh about all this GT3 stuff. Cheers
Sounds good. I'll look you up when Im out that way driving..
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Mike, I was beginning to think you were an under cover Porsche agent. Now I understand the reason for your persistent optimism. :thumb up:

All of us in accepting this car with a new engine are risking lengthy service issues and possible future failures. Porsche just does not have the time to adequately do this right despite what many of you think. Their hands are tied.
Thanks Nick, we all have things that motivate us.

Back OT, let's not get confused by the word "new". The engine will be new in the sense that it's unused with an updated and improved part, not new as in new design. As has been mentioned several times, the design has already proven itself in hundreds of thousands of hours of testing. No manufacturer, Porsche included, would put an untested design in the cars as an expediency and risk a fiasco like this a second time.

As has also been mentioned, if improperly spec'd or defective bottom end components found their way into these engines, and if Porsche can't determine at exactly which point in the supply chain that the bad parts started to appear, then a total engine replacement is the best solution for all customers and likely for Porsche as well, although it will cost them a fortune. Call me an optimist if you like; I can live with that.

Originally Posted by SamFromTX
I am actually excited about a new engine, as we get to debate the break in period all over again.
At last, a silver lining!
Old 03-11-2014 | 02:41 PM
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Hydrostatic transmissions have their place as do gear drive types. Depends on what you're using it for.

The late Turbo cars have always run better with an automatic (all they way back to the Tiptronic). They are blistering fast. "***** to the wall" and hold on.


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