Consolidated 991RS thread
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I forgot to mention wind buffeting.
Its insane. I cant imagine tracking this car with the windows open. Imagine the worst buffeting banging you ever heard and do it times 3.
I thought the windows were coming out and my ears clogged up, super crazy. If DE organizers will insist on windows completely down its a real big problem, we may have to stick CUP vented rear windows in or something because you cant see straight otherwise.
Its insane. I cant imagine tracking this car with the windows open. Imagine the worst buffeting banging you ever heard and do it times 3.
I thought the windows were coming out and my ears clogged up, super crazy. If DE organizers will insist on windows completely down its a real big problem, we may have to stick CUP vented rear windows in or something because you cant see straight otherwise.
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#3047
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I forgot to mention wind buffeting.
Its insane. I cant imagine tracking this car with the windows open. Imagine the worst buffeting banging you ever heard and do it times 3.
I thought the windows were coming out and my ears clogged up, super crazy. If DE organizers will insist on windows completely down its a real big problem, we may have to stick CUP vented rear windows in or something because you cant see straight otherwise.
Its insane. I cant imagine tracking this car with the windows open. Imagine the worst buffeting banging you ever heard and do it times 3.
I thought the windows were coming out and my ears clogged up, super crazy. If DE organizers will insist on windows completely down its a real big problem, we may have to stick CUP vented rear windows in or something because you cant see straight otherwise.
#3050
Race Director
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Are there are any options besides this? http://www.awe-tuning.com/awe-tuning...-wind-diffuser
And do we have feedback on what actually works and doesn't work?
And do we have feedback on what actually works and doesn't work?
#3053
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Eduardo, you're the voice of reason. And, wow, your knowledge of all this stuff is mind-blowingly impressive!! Thanks for the commentary. After reading your responses, I have a lot more questions that I'm hoping you can help with.
Oh, no!
See attempted responses in red.
Interesting. I'm still hoping that the Glasurit info is relevant. And I haven't found a similar site for DuPont that lets one browse their paint selection. Do you know of one?
Here is their general website. You seem pretty good at sleuthing. Maybe you'll find it here:
http://www.axaltacs.com/corporate/en.../overview.html
Even if they weren't the official supplier, it is still curious that W25 does not exist on their website. Do you have any theories why this might be? They catalog other paint that was used on relatively few cars (eg. Kristalblau).
'Crystal Blue' was a series production color in the late 1960's & early 1970's. W25 'Signal Green' was a very limited formulation (a variation) of the traditional 'Signal Green'. The latter had twice appeared in PAG's offerings - longhood 911 in the late 1960's & again with 964 type 911's in the early 90's (MY1991/1992). Glasurit simply doesn't bother to list the limited W25 version of 'Signal Green' since it was such a small, PTS run!
Ok, great. I'm hoping that my car arrives in as close a match as possible to the original 531 in appearance. I'm still not completely sure why some 1950-1953 colours (eg. Adriablau) use identical formulae in more recent times, while Modegrau does not. Perhaps it had to do with a constituent paint that is no longer useable and had to be changed, and this applies only to those colours using that constituent??
Modegrau will be a great color!
Thanks for the link http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/..._feature8.html!
You welcome
Why don't you think it could be "Java/Lava orange"?
Just my wishful thinking. In fact there is increase talk & speculation about 'Lava Orange' as the new color for both the MY2015 gt3 RS and the gt4. User ExMB contacted me via PM to inform me of discussions of both 'Lava Orange' & 'Miami Blue' at a german website discussing upcoming gt4 color offerings. Link below (in German)
http://www.pff.de/porsche/board104-p.../index115.html
and VW 'Lava Orange' screenshot listing the hue as color code 'LM2A' -see attachment at bottom of this post
Eduardo, do you recall another example where a historic colour was revived for non-PTS standard use in a newer model?
Yes, 'Signal Green' was revived as standard color on the MY1991/1992 911 under its original historic name (although with a slightly different color formulation code 22S)!
Why do you state no Miamiblau so emphatically? I was really hoping there might be a really great blue for the RS. Plus the year listed by Glasurit seemed to fit with the timing of the 991 RS.
Just a gut feeling. Nothing more. I must add that 'Miami Blue' has also surfaced as a possible color for the gt4 in some German website (see link above), but I can't attest to its validity. Maybe they were reading your posts on Rennlist and that's how it got there!
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And agreed, to find a matte finish listed was also a surprise to me for a track car. It has the same code (OK1) as Oryx white pearl effect has. This may be a unique case where one paint code refers to two very different colours. Do you know more about the origins of Oryx?
Not totally. The idea of it drifted into Porsche PTS via a VW special paint named that color. It's available on the new VW Beetle and Jetta. But our PTS in that color is extra complicated to apply and probably offers a superior result. Thus, it apparently merits the double price of US$11,000 instead of the regular US$5500.
I recall from the prior thread https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...new-color.html that this was once seen on a Turbo. Was this a very special paint that was not attached to a particular model of car but could be ordered by paint cognoscenti? Perhaps the other matte and satin paints will also be unattached to any car in like manner and thus not be RS colours per se. IMO one notable thing about the "new" ones is that they appear starting in 2014, whereas Oryx is listed from 2010 onwards. So, in either case, it is a new colour to look out for, even if it may not show up on the RS.
We will find out soon!
Again, many thanks for your insights! I always enjoy reading what you have to say.![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
Oh, no!
See attempted responses in red.
Interesting. I'm still hoping that the Glasurit info is relevant. And I haven't found a similar site for DuPont that lets one browse their paint selection. Do you know of one?
Here is their general website. You seem pretty good at sleuthing. Maybe you'll find it here:
http://www.axaltacs.com/corporate/en.../overview.html
Even if they weren't the official supplier, it is still curious that W25 does not exist on their website. Do you have any theories why this might be? They catalog other paint that was used on relatively few cars (eg. Kristalblau).
'Crystal Blue' was a series production color in the late 1960's & early 1970's. W25 'Signal Green' was a very limited formulation (a variation) of the traditional 'Signal Green'. The latter had twice appeared in PAG's offerings - longhood 911 in the late 1960's & again with 964 type 911's in the early 90's (MY1991/1992). Glasurit simply doesn't bother to list the limited W25 version of 'Signal Green' since it was such a small, PTS run!
Ok, great. I'm hoping that my car arrives in as close a match as possible to the original 531 in appearance. I'm still not completely sure why some 1950-1953 colours (eg. Adriablau) use identical formulae in more recent times, while Modegrau does not. Perhaps it had to do with a constituent paint that is no longer useable and had to be changed, and this applies only to those colours using that constituent??
Modegrau will be a great color!
Thanks for the link http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/..._feature8.html!
You welcome
Why don't you think it could be "Java/Lava orange"?
Just my wishful thinking. In fact there is increase talk & speculation about 'Lava Orange' as the new color for both the MY2015 gt3 RS and the gt4. User ExMB contacted me via PM to inform me of discussions of both 'Lava Orange' & 'Miami Blue' at a german website discussing upcoming gt4 color offerings. Link below (in German)
http://www.pff.de/porsche/board104-p.../index115.html
and VW 'Lava Orange' screenshot listing the hue as color code 'LM2A' -see attachment at bottom of this post
Eduardo, do you recall another example where a historic colour was revived for non-PTS standard use in a newer model?
Yes, 'Signal Green' was revived as standard color on the MY1991/1992 911 under its original historic name (although with a slightly different color formulation code 22S)!
Why do you state no Miamiblau so emphatically? I was really hoping there might be a really great blue for the RS. Plus the year listed by Glasurit seemed to fit with the timing of the 991 RS.
Just a gut feeling. Nothing more. I must add that 'Miami Blue' has also surfaced as a possible color for the gt4 in some German website (see link above), but I can't attest to its validity. Maybe they were reading your posts on Rennlist and that's how it got there!
![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
And agreed, to find a matte finish listed was also a surprise to me for a track car. It has the same code (OK1) as Oryx white pearl effect has. This may be a unique case where one paint code refers to two very different colours. Do you know more about the origins of Oryx?
Not totally. The idea of it drifted into Porsche PTS via a VW special paint named that color. It's available on the new VW Beetle and Jetta. But our PTS in that color is extra complicated to apply and probably offers a superior result. Thus, it apparently merits the double price of US$11,000 instead of the regular US$5500.
I recall from the prior thread https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...new-color.html that this was once seen on a Turbo. Was this a very special paint that was not attached to a particular model of car but could be ordered by paint cognoscenti? Perhaps the other matte and satin paints will also be unattached to any car in like manner and thus not be RS colours per se. IMO one notable thing about the "new" ones is that they appear starting in 2014, whereas Oryx is listed from 2010 onwards. So, in either case, it is a new colour to look out for, even if it may not show up on the RS.
We will find out soon!
Again, many thanks for your insights! I always enjoy reading what you have to say.
![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
Saludos
Eduardo
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#3055
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Can you imagine this thing in ORANGE?!
Also anyone notice the wider Fenders? I mean the fender itself is wider and theres no arch extensions. Maybe P will fit 255 or even 265 up front.
To quote Bourdain- "This thing would even give Hef an unassisted woody!"
Also anyone notice the wider Fenders? I mean the fender itself is wider and theres no arch extensions. Maybe P will fit 255 or even 265 up front.
To quote Bourdain- "This thing would even give Hef an unassisted woody!"
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I forgot to mention wind buffeting. Its insane. I cant imagine tracking this car with the windows open. Imagine the worst buffeting banging you ever heard and do it times 3. I thought the windows were coming out and my ears clogged up, super crazy. If DE organizers will insist on windows completely down its a real big problem, we may have to stick CUP vented rear windows in or something because you cant see straight otherwise.
Those with buffeting, have your passenger window been up or only partially down?
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Geneva will be the more exciting venue, at least from my perspective. I am looking forward to it.
Kevin.
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Nordschleife Master
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I just want them to hurry up and announce the car and finalize dealer allocations so we can start specing the car.