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Old 01-12-2023, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Highline-Autos.com
The 10 year warranty was their goodwill... If you are out of the 10 year warranty then it will be on you! G motor stock will come available for purchase... the people who bought these cars new from Porsche, the ones Porsche would care to keep happy, are long gone.
You're probably right, but I don't want you to be!
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Old 01-14-2023, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NNayak
I'm curious if he had any comments on the status of their solid lifter top end retrofit for the .1 engine? That seems like a far more economical path forward than shelling out for the full .2 motor swap (especially when the rest of the motor .1 ain't broke...)
Dundon is going to finish and offer to the market the solid lifter solution they had engineered. My G6 is warrantied until 2027. By then at my current track rate it will have 70k miles on it. I’ll do what Jamie is talking about at that point and drop a 991.2 RS motor in. Or a 992 motor in.
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Old 01-14-2023, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dsteding
Dundon is going to finish and offer to the market the solid lifter solution they had engineered. My G6 is warrantied until 2027. By then at my current track rate it will have 70k miles on it. I’ll do what Jamie is talking about at that point and drop a 991.2 RS motor in. Or a 992 motor in.
Is that the latest? The project he was working on with PD (https://performancedevelopments.com/under-development/) was an entire solid valvetrain. I know he hinted around the job not exactly being cheap, so maybe it's more economical to put a .2 in there now.

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Originally Posted by itrsteve
Is that the latest? The project he was working on with PD (https://performancedevelopments.com/under-development/) was an entire solid valvetrain. I know he hinted around the job not exactly being cheap, so maybe it's more economical to put a .2 in there now.
Hopefully he will weigh in here. Although I get not wanting to commit to anything when plans are not solidified.

I for one am quite interested in a 991.1, with plan likely to get an original engine car and send it to Dundon for engine work once the warranty expires. This will be a car for me to hold long-term, track a fair amount and drive in nice weather. However, I might just get a 991.2 if the only engine fix available once warranty expires is a 991.2 swap anyways.
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Originally Posted by slipaway37
Agree as my replacement motor cost the dealer $70,000.
Now waiting for the PDK to go kaput under extended warranty as do not wish to eat that >$20K replacement!
Dealer doesn’t pay for the engine and the replacement engine didn’t cost Porsche $70k.

Originally Posted by slipaway37
I was told in-person by a reputable Porsche Tech that they ALL (pre G6) will 'break,' but also must be driven.
It's the garage queens any potential buyer would wish to shy away from as we near the 10 year warranty limit. Unless of course money is of no object, and there are many P-Car buyers with $$$ to burn for which I am not one, lol.
Is there a Porsche logo somewhere that reads, "PORSCHE, MEANT TO BE DRIVEN" with a flying pegasus? HA!
If a buyer has the money, they won’t be buying a .1.
Old 01-14-2023, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mtx450
It's funny because I just spoke to Jamie from Dundon. His recommendation? Spend the next 2 years trying to break it. If you don't break it, keep 40k set aside and if/when it does break, swap in a used .2 engine that doesn't have the flawed lifters.
This is a big deal. Many point to Dundon expecting them to have an economical solution that isn’t a replacement engine.
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Originally Posted by RDCR
I've wondered about that question as well. I think there may be many solutions/directions available that aren't clear at the moment because the warranty is still in place.

All original motors are not doomed to fail. I test drove a 2015 F motor car that had 109K miles on it. At the 4-5K miles I put on my car yearly that could get me 15 more years!

When I bought my car in Dec 2018 the general consensus was the .1s would be worth less then $100K by the end of 2019. That certainly didn't turn out to be the case.
Pre Covid, .1’s were available for 100-110. The bounce back had nothing to do with the car.
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Old 01-15-2023, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanCO
Dealer doesn’t pay for the engine and the replacement engine didn’t cost Porsche $70k.
If a buyer has the money, they won’t be buying a .1.
I can understand that; however, what was the hefty stack of invoice receipts in excess of $70 meant to represent?
Willing to bet a non-warranty motor would have cost me that or more?
All depends on the buyer. Some prefer a .1 whereas others prefer a .2 or otherwise.

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Old 01-15-2023, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by slipaway37
I can understand that; however, what was the hefty stack of invoice receipts in excess of $70 meant to represent?
Willing to bet a non-warranty motor would have cost me that or more?
All depends on the buyer. Some prefer a .1 whereas others prefer a .2 or otherwise.
Sure, the car owner may be charged $70k. I would be curious as to the actual cost to Porsche for an engine replacement and what the final cost for the .1 engine issues.

Prefer? Well, I have a 997.1 and while I love the car, I would prefer a 997.2 if you take the $ delta out of the equation. And the 997.1 didn’t have an engine design flaw.
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The engine receipts on the replacement for my former car showed $70k or so for the engine cost which was reduced to $35k by returning the blown engine. Covered under warranty.
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Originally Posted by dgoldenz
The engine receipts on the replacement for my former car showed $70k or so for the engine cost which was reduced to $35k by returning the blown engine. Covered under warranty.
Did you take it to Gaudin? I did, but mine just had N/A with no actual figures.
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Originally Posted by itrsteve
Guys - just go out and picture you're on the longest sweeping curve ever where you're throttle steering between 8700-9000 (the sort of long sweeper where a mid shift would unsettle the car and not be good). But instead of a sweeper on track, it's a quiet/straight backroad and you stay in the upper limits of 2nd gear for maybe a little longer than feels comfortable to gain confidence in your engine.

Thank me later for all the new confidence in your engine you just gained.
I think that's the worst way to grenade these engines.
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Originally Posted by Mthrice
Did you take it to Gaudin? I did, but mine just had N/A with no actual figures.
No the previous owner had the engine replaced. It was a Bay Area dealer, don’t remember the name.
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Old 01-16-2023, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think that's the worst way to grenade these engines.
Worst way how? Outside of regular track use, it’s much safer than driving around like an idiot redlining when you can.

also, it works.
Old 01-16-2023, 11:58 AM
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I'm gonna ask a really dumb question.......is it possible to purchase an Extended Warranty after the initial 10 year expires?


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