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Old 11-25-2021, 03:03 PM
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The 991.1 GT3 may arguably have the best howl from 8-9K out of the 9A1 lot, but ultimately the albatross around its neck is the well documented reliability record so pick your poison.

It's really interesting to listen to Andreas briefly address this subject along with his proclamation that the 991.2 GT3 unit is more bulletproof than the 996/7 Mezgers could ever hope to be.

Check it out and Happy Thanksgiving ~

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Originally Posted by itrsteve
Will certainly be interesting to see how it plays out over time.

My guess is that once 2024'ish rolls around there will certainly be a negative impact, the G6'd cars will fare okay relative to the others but will still take a reputation hit by association. But eventually they'll find their bottom resistance point and rebound due to the sheer fact that you'll no longer to be able to buy any 9k NA screamers and the price gap to a 991.2 (for instance) will be great enough to justify eating an out-of-pocket engine expense if it comes to that (hell, that's pretty much the case today). I suppose we'll have to revisit in 2030+

The other thing I'll be interested to see if there's any additional concessions or goodwill made by Porsche once the warranties are up due to legal pressure from a class action suit or bad PR pressure. Let's face it, this 100% should have been a recall but they shut everybody up with the warranty and bought some time, played the numbers game and prevented a parts flood and labor at dealers. Purely speculation on my part.

Funny enough, I was at my dealer last week getting an oil change and they had three 991.1's in for engine replacements. They're not tough to kill if driven.

I always thought it was a cool value prop that it was the only GT3 where you're incentivized to drive it hard and rack up the miles. No rewards for bubble wrapping.
^^This. I don't see how Porsche could deny a new G6 on low mileage failure past the 10 year mark, mileage mark maybe, but if you have a sub 20-30K mile GT3 (which I assume there will be plenty) with explicit FF failure, I don't see them denying a goodwill. Especially if you have a good purchase history of pcars. This car is too perfect and too timeless.

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I don’t understand why people are willing to buy a car hoping its engine will grenade to take advantage of a warranty. To me that’s a no go for a long term keeper.
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Originally Posted by shahrukh_bakar
I don’t understand why people are willing to buy a car hoping its engine will grenade to take advantage of a warranty. To me that’s a no go for a long term keeper.
Because the ones from the factory are flawed and should have been recalled.

Not sure why a drivers car should car about if the engine is original or not.
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Bumping this up to January 2023. Looking at a 2015 with original F motor sitting with 24k on the clock. Warranty good until 12/2024. Pull the trigger and give it hell or run for the hills?
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Old 01-10-2023, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mtx450
Bumping this up to January 2023. Looking at a 2015 with original F motor sitting with 24k on the clock. Warranty good until 12/2024. Pull the trigger and give it hell or run for the hills?
Depends on the price...but if you did...you better make sure you kill that engine before the warranty is up.
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I think about this a lot, especially since our provider Freedom Warranty does offer coverage on these 991.1 GT3's, which would definitely be a bandaid to the problem. I feel like I'd be too afraid to drive it... but I'm sure GT3 owners will tell you the second you turn the key, all that worry disappears and you just want to use it.
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Originally Posted by thuggo
Depends on the price...but if you did...you better make sure you kill that engine before the warranty is up.
Agree as my replacement motor cost the dealer $70,000.
Now waiting for the PDK to go kaput under extended warranty as do not wish to eat that >$20K replacement!
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It's funny because I just spoke to Jamie from Dundon. His recommendation? Spend the next 2 years trying to break it. If you don't break it, keep 40k set aside and if/when it does break, swap in a used .2 engine that doesn't have the flawed lifters.
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How hard is the swap (.2 engine in .1)? Is it possible in CA?
Old 01-10-2023, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mdwagn
How hard is the swap (.2 engine in .1)? Is it possible in CA?
He seemed to imply that the ECU is the same for .1's and .2's and could be done with a simple reflash. Not sure about CA.
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Originally Posted by mtx450
It's funny because I just spoke to Jamie from Dundon. His recommendation? Spend the next 2 years trying to break it. If you don't break it, keep 40k set aside and if/when it does break, swap in a used .2 engine that doesn't have the flawed lifters.
I was told in-person by a reputable Porsche Tech that they ALL (pre G6) will 'break,' but also must be driven.
It's the garage queens any potential buyer would wish to shy away from as we near the 10 year warranty limit. Unless of course money is of no object, and there are many P-Car buyers with $$$ to burn for which I am not one, lol.
Is there a Porsche logo somewhere that reads, "PORSCHE, MEANT TO BE DRIVEN" with a flying pegasus? HA!


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Originally Posted by mtx450
He seemed to imply that the ECU is the same for .1's and .2's and could be done with a simple reflash. Not sure about CA.
Why would this not be possible in CA? Is the 991.2 not sold in the State?
Perhaps I am missing something?
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Originally Posted by slipaway37
Why would this not be possible in CA? Is the 991.2 not sold in the State?
Perhaps I am missing something?
The guy above me was asking in the previous thread, just not sure because Jamie didn't say.
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Originally Posted by mtx450
It's funny because I just spoke to Jamie from Dundon. His recommendation? Spend the next 2 years trying to break it. If you don't break it, keep 40k set aside and if/when it does break, swap in a used .2 engine that doesn't have the flawed lifters.
I'm curious if he had any comments on the status of their solid lifter top end retrofit for the .1 engine? That seems like a far more economical path forward than shelling out for the full .2 motor swap (especially when the rest of the motor .1 ain't broke...)

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