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While that is an excellent example of turbo lag, I politely rebuttal . Local Owner, Greg Whitten, claims it effectively goes from a 3L engine to the equivalent of an 8L engine upon boost (at one car guy breakfast he mentioned he was running 23psi of boost - stock is 14psi).
But come on, slapping Japanese turbos on a de-stroked 308 motor is not ground up development and lag is actually what they wanted using larger turbos to get more top end boost. Gruppe B racing required those high rev operating ranges where the turbos would be active a majority of the time so bigger turbos meant more power (look at the RS200 oversize). Contrary to this limited, singular product line of F40, Porsche has had the benefit of continuous development across numerous product iterations with many more decades of development.
Only 272 in total production including EVO and you're using that as a data point - a bit of a stretch when Porsche has had decades and how many (hundreds of thousands?) versions across all turbo model development
Originally Posted by Napoli
And 288 GTO.
I took thhis pic showing Ferrari owner Dale Chihuly gazing on Paul Allen's 288 GTO
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[QUOTE=Perimeter;15211817]Only 272 in total production including EVO and you're using that as a data point - a bit of a stretch when Porsche has had decades and how many (hundreds of thousands?) versions across all turbo model development [/QUOTE
The truth is not a stretch. And, did you not see that I agree with your point?
Only 272 in total production including EVO and you're using that as a data point - a bit of a stretch when Porsche has had decades and how many (hundreds of thousands?) versions across all turbo model development [/QUOTE
The truth is not a stretch. And, did you not see that I agree with your point?
Originally Posted by Perimeter
Always looking for an excuse to drop a 288GTO pic in a thread
Dale Chihuly does glass art, you may have heard of him .... sometimes he has artistic driving shoes!
LOL
I tend to agree with you but the lack of storage space in the 488 is a bit of a bummer.
One tends to forget how good the GT3 is in terms of storage - the frunk and the back area are both very serviceable.
Back seat is hard to get to in the GT3/GT3RS.
488 daily driving would be no problem. Car drives like a dream. When you want it to be civil, its civil. When you want it to be mean, its mean. Its a great all around car. And with Ferrari 7 year service included, upkeep costs are minimal.
At the end of the day, you cant compare the two cars. They are both great and I just dont see the need for competition between the two brands. The 488 is twice the cost of a Gt3 (roughly) and I dont know a single person cross shopping between the two.
A RS is a RS as it has been said............and face it.....a Ferrari is a freakin Ferrari that all would love to have in the right model for your needs..................wonderful exhaust sound and design.........and they drive great.......not better or worse that a GT3 or Lambo or Aston Martin.......just different............
If you track a lot then the GT3 is a better car. If you drive on the street more, then the 488 is a better car.
Agree with this. The RS's composure, fun factor, heartiness and reliability on track are a huge plus for people who want to track. Both cars are fabulous.
While that is an excellent example of turbo lag, I politely rebuttal . Local Owner, Greg Whitten, claims it effectively goes from a 3L engine to the equivalent of an 8L engine upon boost (at one car guy breakfast he mentioned he was running 23psi of boost - stock is 14psi).
But come on, slapping Japanese turbos on a de-stroked 308 motor is not ground up development and lag is actually what they wanted using larger turbos to get more top end boost. Gruppe B racing required those high rev operating ranges where the turbos would be active a majority of the time so bigger turbos meant more power (look at the RS200 oversize). Contrary to this limited, singular product line of F40, Porsche has had the benefit of continuous development across numerous product iterations with many more decades of development.
Im guessing you work(ed) at MSFT? My old man was there for a very long time.
to the OP, you are on RL in the 911 GT subforum. for a weekend car, can't beat a GT3
forget about track for moment. to those who have both, which one can be better used on daily basis? short, suburban commutes to work, gym, errands, etc. traffic, parking not an issue. how do suspension compliance compare on bad roads?
btw, I dd 997 gt3 and 348 spider for 5 yrs each. were about equal despite manual steering and roof in Ferrari. gt3 was awful suspension on bad roads.
08-13-2018 | 10:51 AM
