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Old 04-06-2018, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SANDIEGO
I had assumed this was pretty basic stuff, but I guess not.
No, you are correct, it is. We are not talking string theory here.
Old 04-06-2018, 04:24 PM
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I learned this as a kid when found a very rare old penny that was apparently worth a dollar. I asked my parents why this was the case and I was told because that penny is so rare and that other people wanted the penny and were willing to pay a dollar for it. My parents said something about supply and demand. I think that covers this topic. Nothing left to say
Old 04-06-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SANDIEGO
It's quite simply supply and demand driven. More people want a GT3 than are available, so price goes up. If Porsche produced 3X more units, there would be no ADM. It has nothing to do with government regulation. Seems like you are over thinking this a bit.
What about supply restraint? If emissions regulations are causing production to be stopped, there is a case for supply restraint. Dealers are taking advantage of market conditions with the ADM.
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Can we get back to the question: what are used GT3s actually selling for? None list online for less the $180s.
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^ yes
Old 04-07-2018, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by disden
Can we get back to the question: what are used GT3s actually selling for? None list online for less the $180s.
Yes I saw a RL member selling his for 177 I think & it had clear bra & maybe some other goodies. Pretty good deal. Too quote one of our distinguished members, offers buy cars.
Old 04-07-2018, 04:58 AM
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I’m not sure it’s a supply and demand thing. It seems a lot of used .2 GT3’s have been for sale so most likely some individual or a non Porsche dealer gets an allocation then they flip it to make a quick profit before the market drops or they put on too many miles. In the meantime the actual Porsche buyers who wants to keep the car and drive it as it was meant to be either has to pay a higher price to cover the 1st buyers taxes and whatever extra they can get. The flippers and the buyers who don’t really plan to keep them long enough to get even 1k miles are creating less supply which makes them seem like the demand is higher. It’s sad to me that Porsche has become this way. They are such great driving cars.
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I haven’t seen any Tourings for sale. Anyone know what those are going for?
Old 04-07-2018, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by erikerik
I haven’t seen any Tourings for sale. Anyone know what those are going for?
Most of the Tourings that I have seen have been around 30,000 over M.S.R.P and more. Asking price of course. Seen very few for sale especially Touring manuals.
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I think the Touring models will always be priced higher than other GT3s because they are a "different" car. What I mean by that is that is they attract a car buyer that may have no interest in other GT cars because of the PDK box or wing. The 911R was that kind of car but was unattainable for most. The GT4 was almost that kind of car and generated a lot of interest but if you didn't want a wing you steered away (or maybe bought a Spyder like me). I know that while I may be in a small segment of buyers I'm not alone. I was looking for a high performance car for mainly street driving that had a manual box and no wing. If you think about it there aren't many cars like that around from any manufacturer. When you have relative exclusivity you will have relatively higher prices.
Old 04-07-2018, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by erikerik
I haven’t seen any Tourings for sale. Anyone know what those are going for?
I am hearing delivery miles $25 - $40K over. Love the unicorn in your avatar by the way
Old 04-07-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by erikerik
I haven’t seen any Tourings for sale. Anyone know what those are going for?

Locally, they were asking $50k over for a black one and it was sold in a few days, so probably very close to that asking price. I have e actually seen that car at my local car detail place afterwards.
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What do you guys think is fair price for a pre-built car but a bloated MSRP (MSRP of $180K)? Seller wants $10K over, which is a smaller ADM, but the bloated MSRP makes the car pricier than most...

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Originally Posted by obbob
What do you guys think is fair price for a pre-built car with Sofas but a bloated MSRP (MSRP of $180K)? Seller wants $10K over, which is a smaller ADM, but the bloated MSRP makes the car pricier than most...
Somebody is going to buy it at that price. Do you like the spec and appreciate all/most of the extras?
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Originally Posted by obbob
What do you guys think is fair price for a pre-built car with Sofas but a bloated MSRP (MSRP of $180K)? Seller wants $10K over, which is a smaller ADM, but the bloated MSRP makes the car pricier than most...
If you like the car and you're comfortable with the $190K total price, then that's all that needs to be said and you should go for it if you are in the market. $10K ADM is low from what I've seen and maybe typical for sofas+PDK, but no one knows what these cars are actually selling for behind closed doors. Ask and what is actually agreed upon are two different things, the delta unknown to all of us.

At the end of the day people fixate on MSRP/ADM but just go with your gut and if it's a car you don't want to see go and you are OK with the number, go for it. Otherwise you can always wait as I am sure more .2s will pop up as they are still being built this year.

Just my 2 cents


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