Are GT3s with ADM moving off dealer lots?
07-07-2018, 03:55 PM
#376
Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
...Moving off dealer lots and shortly thereafter being put up for sale. WTF if going on? Porsche supply seems like it's meeting demand with over 70 GT3s on the market, mostly used with <500 miles.
07-07-2018, 03:55 PM
#377
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Sam, it's been like this for a while. Several months ago when I bought my Slate Grey GT3 for $20k over (killed me to do it but could not resist the color/build) there were nearly a dozen PTS GT3s for sale. Most stealers feel like PTS justifies higher ADM (say $25-40k vs. $15-25k). This plus the $13k for paint job really narrows this market. These cars are a value at MSRP. But add in lots of options and ADM, and the prices stop making sense.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if the 991.2 is truly the last year of the N/A engine or manual or Touring...
These three uncertainties are helping keep prices lofty here IMHO.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if the 991.2 is truly the last year of the N/A engine or manual or Touring...
These three uncertainties are helping keep prices lofty here IMHO.
07-07-2018, 03:56 PM
#378
Racer
That is what I find the most disheartening...such a waste for these pts slots.
Jack
07-07-2018, 03:58 PM
#379
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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Minimum 15k ADM and that is a PDK with sofas ....
And only a couple tourings (both sold I think as I am looking for a friend for one, NorCal if possible, PM if you know of one at non-stupid ADM).
07-07-2018, 04:03 PM
#380
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$15k ADM for a PTS car is a steal! If it's your color, or close to it, don't hesitate.
Tourings are interesting. Purely cosmetic package. Porsche could've made some 911R-type enhancements and charged $50k more, and the demand would be as high or higher.
I wonder how many will be built, <991!?
Tourings are interesting. Purely cosmetic package. Porsche could've made some 911R-type enhancements and charged $50k more, and the demand would be as high or higher.
I wonder how many will be built, <991!?
07-07-2018, 04:16 PM
#381
$15k ADM for a PTS car is a steal! If it's your color, or close to it, don't hesitate.
Tourings are interesting. Purely cosmetic package. Porsche could've made some 911R-type enhancements and charged $50k more, and the demand would be as high or higher.
I wonder how many will be built, <991!?
Tourings are interesting. Purely cosmetic package. Porsche could've made some 911R-type enhancements and charged $50k more, and the demand would be as high or higher.
I wonder how many will be built, <991!?
The touring looks great. Beautiful car. However, makes absolutely NO sense that it would have higher ADMs, particularly in the long run.
07-07-2018, 04:28 PM
#382
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On second thought, a steal for a PTS car would be MSRP. $15k is simply fair, not a steal.
With so many ‘used’ GT3s for sale, I have to believe MSRP is not too hard to find.
Tourings with higher premiums makes sense to me baecause there’s less supply.
With so many ‘used’ GT3s for sale, I have to believe MSRP is not too hard to find.
Tourings with higher premiums makes sense to me baecause there’s less supply.
08-09-2018, 09:07 PM
#383
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Really? Seems impossible to find for me. Even what I think are reasonable offers over (5 to 7k) get laughed at. I do want a manual though. Do those just simply command more ADM? What secret handshake do I need to know to get anywhere close to MSRP? Think I need to settle for a GTS. Can anyone impart some wisdom to a GT3 noob? I want one for the track... not to resell or rub with a diaper in a garage.
08-10-2018, 12:10 AM
#384
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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Best I know of are $10k over for some pretty heavily optioned GT3 6MT with minimal miles.
I suspect if you offerred 10k over on every car you saw that met your needs, you would get one.
Finding a true stripper (since you want to track) is going to be hard, regardless of ADM because most of the cars got built with lots of options.
I suspect if you offerred 10k over on every car you saw that met your needs, you would get one.
Finding a true stripper (since you want to track) is going to be hard, regardless of ADM because most of the cars got built with lots of options.
08-10-2018, 12:14 AM
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08-10-2018, 12:21 AM
#386
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The list is growing.
https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...age=4&limit=12
https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...age=4&limit=12
I will take the 2RS at $342k. Lol.
08-10-2018, 02:08 AM
#387
.2 market appears to be cooling down.
The asking prices appear the same as 4 months ago, but the speed at which they sell is slower. Before, used delivery mile .2 GT3's would fly off the lots at $15-20K over MSRP. Now, $10-20K still seems to be the asking price, but those cars sit for a lot longer now. Not too sure how much they sell for.
The asking prices appear the same as 4 months ago, but the speed at which they sell is slower. Before, used delivery mile .2 GT3's would fly off the lots at $15-20K over MSRP. Now, $10-20K still seems to be the asking price, but those cars sit for a lot longer now. Not too sure how much they sell for.
08-10-2018, 02:30 AM
#388
.2 market appears to be cooling down.
The asking prices appear the same as 4 months ago, but the speed at which they sell is slower. Before, used delivery mile .2 GT3's would fly off the lots at $15-20K over MSRP. Now, $10-20K still seems to be the asking price, but those cars sit for a lot longer now. Not too sure how much they sell for.
The asking prices appear the same as 4 months ago, but the speed at which they sell is slower. Before, used delivery mile .2 GT3's would fly off the lots at $15-20K over MSRP. Now, $10-20K still seems to be the asking price, but those cars sit for a lot longer now. Not too sure how much they sell for.
08-10-2018, 05:10 AM
#389
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