New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
05-19-2018, 06:59 PM
#1891
Rennlist Member
Even if PCNA wanted to control flipping, the market is the market, and it would take tremendous effort and expense, and in the end markets always find a way to circumvent restrictions ( extreme example is Venezuela, where there are no goods). Dealers are the real PCNA clients, not end consumers (exception for VIPs). The more $ dealers make on GT cars, the easier it is for PCNA to push unwanted Cayennes and Panameras on them. Everybody wins, including those who pay ADM, who get the car they want, when they want. In essence, GT buyers at ADM subsidize the heavy discounts necessary to move the other cars out of the floor. All good.
05-19-2018, 07:10 PM
#1892
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05-19-2018, 10:34 PM
#1893
Rennlist Member
05-20-2018, 10:25 AM
#1894
Even if PCNA wanted to control flipping, the market is the market, and it would take tremendous effort and expense, and in the end markets always find a way to circumvent restrictions ( extreme example is Venezuela, where there are no goods). Dealers are the real PCNA clients, not end consumers (exception for VIPs). The more $ dealers make on GT cars, the easier it is for PCNA to push unwanted Cayennes and Panameras on them. Everybody wins, including those who pay ADM, who get the car they want, when they want. In essence, GT buyers at ADM subsidize the heavy discounts necessary to move the other cars out of the floor. All good.
05-20-2018, 02:07 PM
#1895
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^without getting into semantics here, dealers are the ones making $ for Porsche. The GM from my dealer is the one that gets invited to go to Estoril and other places, without ever having bought a Porsche ( uses the corporate car, or whatever hey call those). All GT cars get sold, and the more cushion dealers have to give discounts on the other cars all win. I cannot tell anyone not to spend their $ in ADM. In the end, market deformed are what they are. By the way, I do agree with you.
05-20-2018, 02:44 PM
#1896
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I prefer like everyone else not to pay ADM but you got to do, what you got to do. A couple of the Rennlister tried to cast shade about “not being lucky since he he paid an ADM” but I agree that luck had nothing to do with it, it had all to do with being successful and being able to afford an ADM. Let me get on my soap box, I can’t understand why people would cast shade unless they are, well, losers. My advice for those people is to get a bigger shovel.
05-20-2018, 04:32 PM
#1897
Originally Posted by Porsch2018
I prefer like everyone else not to pay ADM but you got to do, what you got to do. A couple of the Rennlister tried to cast shade about “not being lucky since he he paid an ADM” but I agree that luck had nothing to do with it, it had all to do with being successful and being able to afford an ADM. Let me get on my soap box, I can’t understand why people would cast shade unless they are, well, losers. My advice for those people is to get a bigger shovel.
My prediction, you will end up selling the RS, between the ride quality and LWB on the street will aggregate you/wife. Again, what a shame there is ZERO chance your RS gets any track time.
05-20-2018, 04:38 PM
#1898
You are the problem, feeding the ADM frenzy. I don't blame the dealerships, but rather the "posers" paying the ADM. The term "poser" is used in the motorcycle community to identify the riders that been riding many years v the newbies just wanting a shiny new bike to be "seen" in. You spec your RS with sofas on an RS, yes an RS. Then you bend to pressure of the RL community and now optioning LWB's. Your own comments indicate your RS will never see the track, what a shame. This RS suspension is more track focused than ever before.
My prediction, you will end up selling the RS, between the ride quality and LWB on the street will aggregate you/wife. Again, what a shame there is ZERO chance your RS gets any track time.
My prediction, you will end up selling the RS, between the ride quality and LWB on the street will aggregate you/wife. Again, what a shame there is ZERO chance your RS gets any track time.
05-20-2018, 04:46 PM
#1900
Originally Posted by GT3
Well, damn. Tell him how you really feel...
05-20-2018, 04:47 PM
#1901
You are the problem, feeding the ADM frenzy. I don't blame the dealerships, but rather the "posers" paying the ADM. The term "poser" is used in the motorcycle community to identify the riders that been riding many years v the newbies just wanting a shiny new bike to be "seen" in. You spec your RS with sofas on an RS, yes an RS. Then you bend to pressure of the RL community and now optioning LWB's. Your own comments indicate your RS will never see the track, what a shame. This RS suspension is more track focused than ever before.
My prediction, you will end up selling the RS, between the ride quality and LWB on the street will aggregate you/wife. Again, what a shame there is ZERO chance your RS gets any track time.
My prediction, you will end up selling the RS, between the ride quality and LWB on the street will aggregate you/wife. Again, what a shame there is ZERO chance your RS gets any track time.
05-20-2018, 04:51 PM
#1902
Originally Posted by Closertotruth
Just wondering why you think you should have any say in how much someone pays for a car or how they spec it and use it? ADM is a result of capitalism. If you don't like it move to another country or make more money and pay it yourself. Or make more money and don't pay it, your option. If I chose to pay ADM and let it sit in my garage or drive it off a cliff why should I care what you think of my choices?
05-20-2018, 04:58 PM
#1903
Rennlist Member
Just wondering why you think you should have any say in how much someone pays for a car or how they spec it and use it? ADM is a result of capitalism. If you don't like it move to another country or make more money and pay it yourself. Or make more money and don't pay it, your option. If I chose to pay ADM and let it sit in my garage or drive it off a cliff why should I care what you think of my choices?
05-20-2018, 05:06 PM
#1904
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"aggregate you/wife" . What language is that....no wonder why you have an issue with my paying an ADM. Get an education then come and see me and maybe, if your real nice, I will let you polish my 3RS......
05-20-2018, 05:12 PM
#1905
Hate seeing these type of comments in these threads. Pay adm if you want, don't if you don't want to. I actually get sofa's because they are more comfortable for me and I do track but it will see the street more because I don't have the time to track that often. If I can get an gt2rs, I'll spec it with sofa's. We all should be thankful we can afford the toys and argue over adm, not try to measure the size of your....