New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
04-13-2018, 03:58 PM
#1606
Drifting
I definitely think the scarcity of these cars is extremely over hyped. All five of the dealers that I originally talked to about getting a GT3 have eventually called me and offered me buildable allocations as well as cars on the ground and expected in the future. Of course when I first approached the dealers they all told me "no way" or "sure we will put you on the list at number nineteen", but without exception they all ended up having cars and allocations for me. These are all New York area dealers. Fact of the matter is that if you want a GT3 you can get one. Sure you might have to pay $10-$15 over, but in the context of most builds (my build is ~$180k) it's really not a big deal.
On top of that we have more and more slightly used examples for sale. If anyone wants a car, don't worry you will find one.
On top of that we have more and more slightly used examples for sale. If anyone wants a car, don't worry you will find one.
04-13-2018, 05:34 PM
#1607
I use to complain like many still do. Then I realized how much I'm missing out on actually ENJOYING the car.
PS - GT-R is a fun car. Had one for about a month. Not quite as razor sharp as GT3, but fun indeed. Black Series will be the one to have...already on the 'list'.
- Bought my '16 GT3RS at $20k over (had tax credit from another trade, so taxes were a wash) enjoyed the hell out of it. Sold it after 11 months for $18k over...cost me $2k.
- Same dealer got me .2GT3 at MSRP (again tax credit from trade, so taxes washed again), enjoyed it, sold it a few weeks ago for $12k over.
- Same dealer got me .2GT3RS allocation (already have order in system--Sept 2018 delivery) at $10k over. I will enjoy the hell out of it and whenever I sell I will probably still make money. If I don't who cares. Cost of entertainment--pretty cheap too for what it brings in enjoyment.
PS - GT-R is a fun car. Had one for about a month. Not quite as razor sharp as GT3, but fun indeed. Black Series will be the one to have...already on the 'list'.
04-13-2018, 06:01 PM
#1608
04-13-2018, 06:18 PM
#1609
Rennlist Member
I do fit in a Mustang 350R Cayman, GT3 and AMG GTR, so I think those are my choices.
I use to complain like many still do. Then I realized how much I'm missing out on actually ENJOYING the car.
PS - GT-R is a fun car. Had one for about a month. Not quite as razor sharp as GT3, but fun indeed. Black Series will be the one to have...already on the 'list'.
- Bought my '16 GT3RS at $20k over (had tax credit from another trade, so taxes were a wash) enjoyed the hell out of it. Sold it after 11 months for $18k over...cost me $2k.
- Same dealer got me .2GT3 at MSRP (again tax credit from trade, so taxes washed again), enjoyed it, sold it a few weeks ago for $12k over.
- Same dealer got me .2GT3RS allocation (already have order in system--Sept 2018 delivery) at $10k over. I will enjoy the hell out of it and whenever I sell I will probably still make money. If I don't who cares. Cost of entertainment--pretty cheap too for what it brings in enjoyment.
PS - GT-R is a fun car. Had one for about a month. Not quite as razor sharp as GT3, but fun indeed. Black Series will be the one to have...already on the 'list'.
I really don't have the stomach to go deal with car dealerships. I rather go to the dentist then set foot in any sales department let alone to start calling all dealers begging to give them money.
If Porsche prefers to allow their dealers to sell to commodity traders, youtube stars and other non-users that's their business and as the world works that way I just have to live with that.
All the unused cars sitting is a shame and being a driving enthusiast hard to see, but I get it, you can Instagram a car in your garage and make money doing it! Great.
I had offers over MSRP on my purple car before I put 30,000 miles on it and I sold my 4.0 at a profit. Did well on all the others as well, never lost a ton of depreciation.
Every new car I bought the last 5 years was a Porsche and I bought them all form the same dealer at MSRP. They had my deposit since 2008. Not this time because its now a commodity it seems.
Not blaming anyone for maximizing their profits, that's everyone's duty.
I do think it helps when you have customers who want to give you money in the long run.
Right now, I don't feel like giving Porsche money and I'm not the only who might leave the brand just in spite and after the crash I may not be back again either.
Fingers crossed plan B lasts at the track...
I don't blame anyone for anything, its just that the guys who actually have the least choice in what car to buy because track durability cant have one.
If I wouldn't track so much, I wouldn't ever buy a GT Porsche.
The good news is that there are some decent alternatives that are cheaper, so that gives back some funds to upgrade track durability.
I'll start the experiment when Mr Purple is getting too tired for the track and make it my DD
04-13-2018, 11:26 PM
#1611
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Sounds like my strategy. I have two plans. Plan A is to see if the sell price of a .2 GT3 drops to MSRP. Plan B is to pull the trigger on a low mileage CPO .1 GT3 if Plan A doesn't pan out. Between the two plans, I should be in a GT3 by end of this year.
@NYC, please post your impression of the .1 GT3.
@NYC, please post your impression of the .1 GT3.
04-13-2018, 11:35 PM
#1612
Wait, they threatened to ban you for saying something negative in a thread that wasn't in the FS section? That's assinine, can't comment on price in the FS section, cant say **** outside of it either. Just let those AMG tools keep flipping west coast dealer cars I guess
04-14-2018, 12:12 AM
#1613
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Originally Posted by Terrence
Can you post or PM me who has those buildable allocations? I have someone who will pay for that now.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Multiple cars on the ground were offered by Fairfield, Greenwich, manhattan, Larchmont, and Roslyn in the past few weeks.
Obviously if you are looking for a buildable allocation you have to work faster because production is going to end on these cars by the end of the year. But if you are even slightly flexible on build then there is plenty to choose from.
04-14-2018, 01:57 AM
#1614
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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=475969978
GT3 changeable build.
December delivery. Can be Manual or PDK.
Touring Package is also available.
04-14-2018, 02:16 AM
#1615
Wait, they threatened to ban you for saying something negative in a thread that wasn't in the FS section? That's assinine, can't comment on price in the FS section, cant say **** outside of it either. Just let those AMG tools keep flipping west coast dealer cars I guess
It wouldn't surprise me if AMG is doing the dirty work for a few west coast stealers to see if they can hook a big fish buyer for them to pay a hefty ADM.
04-14-2018, 02:43 AM
#1616
That is exactly my plan as well. I am going to test drive the .1 tomorrow. I will take it on the highway and on local streets as well in order for me to get a good feel of the car. I am hoping the .2 prices will start to drop soon once some hype dies out. If they do, I would jump in one of the options are right for me. If not I will have to find a .1 and enjoy it for the car that it is. I will give my feedback hopefully tomorrow.
04-14-2018, 07:51 AM
#1617
With the considerable RS ADMs, I'm not so sure. There will be some, as always (no Magic 8-Ball needed), but they will be the PDKs.
04-14-2018, 08:02 AM
#1618
I don't fit in the C7, so not much hope I'll fit in the mid engine one, but I can keep my fingers crossed.
I do fit in a Mustang 350R Cayman, GT3 and AMG GTR, so I think those are my choices.
I don't buy cars to flip. Its a tool to be used to me, not a commodity.
I really don't have the stomach to go deal with car dealerships. I rather go to the dentist then set foot in any sales department let alone to start calling all dealers begging to give them money.
If Porsche prefers to allow their dealers to sell to commodity traders, youtube stars and other non-users that's their business and as the world works that way I just have to live with that.
All the unused cars sitting is a shame and being a driving enthusiast hard to see, but I get it, you can Instagram a car in your garage and make money doing it! Great.
I had offers over MSRP on my purple car before I put 30,000 miles on it and I sold my 4.0 at a profit. Did well on all the others as well, never lost a ton of depreciation.
Every new car I bought the last 5 years was a Porsche and I bought them all form the same dealer at MSRP. They had my deposit since 2008. Not this time because its now a commodity it seems.
Not blaming anyone for maximizing their profits, that's everyone's duty.
I do think it helps when you have customers who want to give you money in the long run.
Right now, I don't feel like giving Porsche money and I'm not the only who might leave the brand just in spite and after the crash I may not be back again either.
Fingers crossed plan B lasts at the track...
I agree, we'll have to wait to have chance for an allocation.
Its not about who can afford what, its about the fact that many buyers would never buy a GT car if it wasn't for the ability to make money / lose very little.
I don't blame anyone for anything, its just that the guys who actually have the least choice in what car to buy because track durability cant have one.
If I wouldn't track so much, I wouldn't ever buy a GT Porsche.
The good news is that there are some decent alternatives that are cheaper, so that gives back some funds to upgrade track durability.
I'll start the experiment when Mr Purple is getting too tired for the track and make it my DD
I do fit in a Mustang 350R Cayman, GT3 and AMG GTR, so I think those are my choices.
I don't buy cars to flip. Its a tool to be used to me, not a commodity.
I really don't have the stomach to go deal with car dealerships. I rather go to the dentist then set foot in any sales department let alone to start calling all dealers begging to give them money.
If Porsche prefers to allow their dealers to sell to commodity traders, youtube stars and other non-users that's their business and as the world works that way I just have to live with that.
All the unused cars sitting is a shame and being a driving enthusiast hard to see, but I get it, you can Instagram a car in your garage and make money doing it! Great.
I had offers over MSRP on my purple car before I put 30,000 miles on it and I sold my 4.0 at a profit. Did well on all the others as well, never lost a ton of depreciation.
Every new car I bought the last 5 years was a Porsche and I bought them all form the same dealer at MSRP. They had my deposit since 2008. Not this time because its now a commodity it seems.
Not blaming anyone for maximizing their profits, that's everyone's duty.
I do think it helps when you have customers who want to give you money in the long run.
Right now, I don't feel like giving Porsche money and I'm not the only who might leave the brand just in spite and after the crash I may not be back again either.
Fingers crossed plan B lasts at the track...
I agree, we'll have to wait to have chance for an allocation.
Its not about who can afford what, its about the fact that many buyers would never buy a GT car if it wasn't for the ability to make money / lose very little.
I don't blame anyone for anything, its just that the guys who actually have the least choice in what car to buy because track durability cant have one.
If I wouldn't track so much, I wouldn't ever buy a GT Porsche.
The good news is that there are some decent alternatives that are cheaper, so that gives back some funds to upgrade track durability.
I'll start the experiment when Mr Purple is getting too tired for the track and make it my DD
04-14-2018, 08:38 AM
#1619
Burning Brakes
I don't fit in the C7, so not much hope I'll fit in the mid engine one, but I can keep my fingers crossed.
I do fit in a Mustang 350R Cayman, GT3 and AMG GTR, so I think those are my choices.
I don't buy cars to flip. Its a tool to be used to me, not a commodity.
I really don't have the stomach to go deal with car dealerships. I rather go to the dentist then set foot in any sales department let alone to start calling all dealers begging to give them money.
If Porsche prefers to allow their dealers to sell to commodity traders, youtube stars and other non-users that's their business and as the world works that way I just have to live with that.
All the unused cars sitting is a shame and being a driving enthusiast hard to see, but I get it, you can Instagram a car in your garage and make money doing it! Great.
I had offers over MSRP on my purple car before I put 30,000 miles on it and I sold my 4.0 at a profit. Did well on all the others as well, never lost a ton of depreciation.
Every new car I bought the last 5 years was a Porsche and I bought them all form the same dealer at MSRP. They had my deposit since 2008. Not this time because its now a commodity it seems.
Not blaming anyone for maximizing their profits, that's everyone's duty.
I do think it helps when you have customers who want to give you money in the long run.
Right now, I don't feel like giving Porsche money and I'm not the only who might leave the brand just in spite and after the crash I may not be back again either.
Fingers crossed plan B lasts at the track...
I agree, we'll have to wait to have chance for an allocation.
Its not about who can afford what, its about the fact that many buyers would never buy a GT car if it wasn't for the ability to make money / lose very little.
I don't blame anyone for anything, its just that the guys who actually have the least choice in what car to buy because track durability cant have one.
If I wouldn't track so much, I wouldn't ever buy a GT Porsche.
The good news is that there are some decent alternatives that are cheaper, so that gives back some funds to upgrade track durability.
I'll start the experiment when Mr Purple is getting too tired for the track and make it my DD
I do fit in a Mustang 350R Cayman, GT3 and AMG GTR, so I think those are my choices.
I don't buy cars to flip. Its a tool to be used to me, not a commodity.
I really don't have the stomach to go deal with car dealerships. I rather go to the dentist then set foot in any sales department let alone to start calling all dealers begging to give them money.
If Porsche prefers to allow their dealers to sell to commodity traders, youtube stars and other non-users that's their business and as the world works that way I just have to live with that.
All the unused cars sitting is a shame and being a driving enthusiast hard to see, but I get it, you can Instagram a car in your garage and make money doing it! Great.
I had offers over MSRP on my purple car before I put 30,000 miles on it and I sold my 4.0 at a profit. Did well on all the others as well, never lost a ton of depreciation.
Every new car I bought the last 5 years was a Porsche and I bought them all form the same dealer at MSRP. They had my deposit since 2008. Not this time because its now a commodity it seems.
Not blaming anyone for maximizing their profits, that's everyone's duty.
I do think it helps when you have customers who want to give you money in the long run.
Right now, I don't feel like giving Porsche money and I'm not the only who might leave the brand just in spite and after the crash I may not be back again either.
Fingers crossed plan B lasts at the track...
I agree, we'll have to wait to have chance for an allocation.
Its not about who can afford what, its about the fact that many buyers would never buy a GT car if it wasn't for the ability to make money / lose very little.
I don't blame anyone for anything, its just that the guys who actually have the least choice in what car to buy because track durability cant have one.
If I wouldn't track so much, I wouldn't ever buy a GT Porsche.
The good news is that there are some decent alternatives that are cheaper, so that gives back some funds to upgrade track durability.
I'll start the experiment when Mr Purple is getting too tired for the track and make it my DD
04-14-2018, 09:44 AM
#1620
Rennlist Member
I have double the miles on the RS then on the Macan, maybe I’ll start taking that when the RS becomes the DD lol.
I still have about 16 months if I ease up on track days and leave it parked otherwise. With the 19” wheels I’m starting to trailer it more, so that will help.
Not stressing till next summer.
The 350R was just announced to stay in production for 2019 and the Black series is also still at least 6 months out.
no ED on the Mustang of course :-(
and there’s always a used .1RS for sale with no miles that can carry me another year.
just swap over track stuff from Mr purple for a year, but rather have the .2 with ED.
the economy is more likely to correct in the next 16 months then me getting another Mr purple :-)
I still have about 16 months if I ease up on track days and leave it parked otherwise. With the 19” wheels I’m starting to trailer it more, so that will help.
Not stressing till next summer.
The 350R was just announced to stay in production for 2019 and the Black series is also still at least 6 months out.
no ED on the Mustang of course :-(
and there’s always a used .1RS for sale with no miles that can carry me another year.
just swap over track stuff from Mr purple for a year, but rather have the .2 with ED.
the economy is more likely to correct in the next 16 months then me getting another Mr purple :-)