BYE BYE Cayman - HELLO America Roadster
#181
Originally Posted by bull30
If Porsche wakes up and decides to put the 3.8 in the Cayman then I may give the Cayman another look... The 3.4 lacks power, especially midrange torque... I'll be the first to admit that I got sucked in by Porsche's outstanding marketing hype... But it did not take long for the thrill to wear off...
Are you planning to race the thing?
The CaymanS/BoxsterS has more power/torque than 95% of the 1 Million+ Pcars ever made.
somehow people have convinced themselves that this car doesn't have enough power and that car doesn't have enough torque.
It's all in your head....
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Originally Posted by perfectlap
It's all in your head....
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Originally Posted by STLPCA
What I don't get is why so many Rennlisters (mostly 964 or 993 owners) seem drawn to come to this Cayman board to bash the car. IMO all it's done is driven a new generation of P car owners elsewhere. As a long time Rennlister (well before this site) that saddens me.
The title of the thread caught my eye, so I was thinking I would learn a bit about why someone would sell their Cayman and go with one of the 911 variants (nice car btw).
Unfortunately I've stumbled upon a pissing match. But they happen everywhere I guess.
And the reason I came over here in the first place was that I had the impression that the Cayman was a hell of a sports car, and I've entertained the idea of buying a used one, but then I stumbled upon a thread (in an unnamed forum) where someone was bad mouthing it, so I thought I would come over here to learn a bit about them.
I think I'll have to read some of the other threads now....
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For cayman appreciation see wwwcaymanclub.net where they can do no wrong...ever. Alas, we need a place where a man with a cayman can get some good info with people who drive and track their cars.
P.S. as a spolier on caymanclub, all cayman's are faster than GT3's it seems....
I must have a lemon.
P.S. as a spolier on caymanclub, all cayman's are faster than GT3's it seems....
I must have a lemon.
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Originally Posted by Chris R.
For cayman appreciation see wwwcaymanclub.net where they can do no wrong...ever. Alas, we need a place where a man with a cayman can get some good info with people who drive and track their cars.
P.S. as a spolier on caymanclub, all cayman's are faster than GT3's it seems....
I must have a lemon.
P.S. as a spolier on caymanclub, all cayman's are faster than GT3's it seems....
I must have a lemon.
According to the CaymanClub, Caymans are the best Porsche made and faster and better handling than any other Porsche...
This seems to be the EVEREADY Thread... It keeps going and going and going...
#186
Originally Posted by bull30
I often wonder how I would have felt if I bought a new 997 Carrera? I have not driven one but I think I would have been thrilled.
i drover a carrera s back to back with a cayman s. and although the carrera s felt more accelerative in a straight line, overall i much preferred the cayman s. I can only imagine a standard 997 is inferior in all respects to a cayman, apart from having 4 seats.
i've been thinking about what possible replacements I can get for my cayman, and I have decided (as of right now) that i will wait a couple of years for the warranty to finish then I will stick in the 3.8 x51 engine. I really cannot think of a car I would rather own, except maybe a rwd gallardo if they made one...
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Originally Posted by P-Car fanatic
i've been thinking about what possible replacements I can get for my cayman, and I have decided (as of right now) that i will wait a couple of years for the warranty to finish then I will stick in the 3.8 x51 engine.
I'm being a bit sarcastic because it's the way I felt... I even went so far as to source out pricing... Then I smartened up and got rid of the car... I'll just wait till Porsche decides to put the 3.8 in the Cayman then compare it with a GT3...
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As a bunch of juvenile men, can we all agree that NO car has too much power and ALL cars can be improved via a bigger motor/more power/more wheel spinning/tire smoking?
Yes...my CS needs 100hp more for sure.....but my dad's GT3 RS could use another 50 I think, so...
Yes...my CS needs 100hp more for sure.....but my dad's GT3 RS could use another 50 I think, so...
#189
Originally Posted by bull30
So obviously you're not happy with the performance of your Cayman... I guess then it is not the end-all-be-all of Porsches... If it's such a great car then why the upgrade to the 3.8x51... It must be because of the Cayman's poor performance...
I'm being a bit sarcastic because it's the way I felt... I even went so far as to source out pricing... Then I smartened up and got rid of the car... I'll just wait till Porsche decides to put the 3.8 in the Cayman then compare it with a GT3...
I'm being a bit sarcastic because it's the way I felt... I even went so far as to source out pricing... Then I smartened up and got rid of the car... I'll just wait till Porsche decides to put the 3.8 in the Cayman then compare it with a GT3...
to be honest, I was really thinking the other day about what I would possibly upgrade to (onwards and upwards as they say), and after discounting different cars like maseratis and aston martins (not feasible in nashville since servicing is miles away in ATL) I can't see any reason to chenge my car unless forced to get a more practical 911 again by my wife when we have kids. So instead of just getting a 3.6 cayman new in 4 years, why not just account for the cost of depreciation of owning that car and stick in the 3.8 x51 in my current owned fro mnew vehicle? I know it sounds ridiculous, but i'm sort of justifying it as the financially sensible choice to myself!
If I do this (and i'm leaning towards it) I think I will get the aerokit/wheels I like/tubi or PSE exhaust and maybe motons (last bit may be overkill)
Although I am not quite in the same school as 'mootym my cars are disposable', at the end of the day, pretty much any modern car depreciates so I may as well get the most out of it
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Originally Posted by Chris R.
As a bunch of juvenile men, can we all agree that NO car has too much power and ALL cars can be improved via a bigger motor/more power/more wheel spinning/tire smoking?
Yes...my CS needs 100hp more for sure.....but my dad's GT3 RS could use another 50 I think, so...
Yes...my CS needs 100hp more for sure.....but my dad's GT3 RS could use another 50 I think, so...
I will agree that the Cayman is under powered... There's a bunch of cars for a lot less money that will out-perform the CS... The BMW M3s stomp all over it at the autoX's...
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Originally Posted by bull30
Actually, I don't totally agree... I'm quite happy with the power in the Roadster... It's just a great cruising machine...
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Originally Posted by bull30
Actually, I don't totally agree... I'm quite happy with the power in the Roadster... It's just a great cruising machine...
I will agree that the Cayman is under powered... There's a bunch of cars for a lot less money that will out-perform the CS... The BMW M3s stomp all over it at the autoX's...
I will agree that the Cayman is under powered... There's a bunch of cars for a lot less money that will out-perform the CS... The BMW M3s stomp all over it at the autoX's...
A CS is no slower than an M3 though it is more money. I think the people getting beat by M3's in Autox should learn to drive their cars more efficiently. I have trounced a few M's at the track and autox...some well driven, others less so. I have no power mods on my car (save a desnork).
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Originally Posted by ZX9RCAM
I am curious.....is your Roadster faster than a Cayman S.....???
I drive my wife's 993 C4S all the time and I would have to rate that as a more pleasurable experience than my CS...
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My stock CS is faster than my buddy's RSA with headers, exhaust, cup airbox and chip....and that car is lighter as well....
Different experience but you can't say you sold the CS for the Roadster to get better performance; more pleasure in your eyes or a better look or a drop top or whatever is perefectly valid but not that it handles stops or goes better.
Different experience but you can't say you sold the CS for the Roadster to get better performance; more pleasure in your eyes or a better look or a drop top or whatever is perefectly valid but not that it handles stops or goes better.
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Originally Posted by Chris R.
My stock CS is faster than my buddy's RSA with headers, exhaust, cup airbox and chip....and that car is lighter as well....
Different experience but you can't say you sold the CS for the Roadster to get better performance; more pleasure in your eyes or a better look or a drop top or whatever is perefectly valid but not that it handles stops or goes better.
Different experience but you can't say you sold the CS for the Roadster to get better performance; more pleasure in your eyes or a better look or a drop top or whatever is perefectly valid but not that it handles stops or goes better.
Just took best of show today... That's my 3rd best of show with the Roadster...