BYE BYE Cayman - HELLO America Roadster
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Originally Posted by bull30
Sorry you're so insecure... Never took a better than you attitude... I'm just toying with a clown... Isn't it interesting how you were the one that originally attacked me and but now you are on the defensive... Trying to explain who you are and what you're all about (as if I really care?)... It's really kind of comical... Like I said, no challenge dealing with a mental midget...
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Originally Posted by Drew_K
Limited numbers plus the American Roadster name. Plus, because the car is rare, most of them are low mileage and kept in very good condition by owners who really care about the car. That's really all there is to it.
As a similar example, I've never understood why the RS America is held in such high regard, but again it's a matter of rarity. The RSA is basically a 964 with the sport suspension, a few extra HP (less than 10), manual steering, and a few less pounds. Nice car, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't explain the large difference in value between the regular 964's and RSA's unless you take rarity into account.
As a similar example, I've never understood why the RS America is held in such high regard, but again it's a matter of rarity. The RSA is basically a 964 with the sport suspension, a few extra HP (less than 10), manual steering, and a few less pounds. Nice car, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't explain the large difference in value between the regular 964's and RSA's unless you take rarity into account.
I guess its a good racket but I'd hate to have something I enjoy driving that I could only put very limited miles on. Kinda like that G.I Joe that has to stay in its box.
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Originally Posted by bull30
When I received the COA from the President PCNA, he congratulated me on purchasing one of the rarest limited production Porsches ever made... Very few people know about them...
IIRC, the 964 Flatnose had a lower production run than the AR as well.
Not sure about the Speedster...
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Originally Posted by perfectlap
that's kind of crazy. so you aren't really getting anything out of the ordinary even by that period's standards, just an "RS America" badge?
I guess its a good racket but I'd hate to have something I enjoy driving that I could only put very limited miles on. Kinda like that G.I Joe that has to stay in its box.
I guess its a good racket but I'd hate to have something I enjoy driving that I could only put very limited miles on. Kinda like that G.I Joe that has to stay in its box.
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Originally Posted by Randy V
OK you knuckleheads, don't make me have to pull over!
Play nice or get some time off - both of ya.
Thanks.
Play nice or get some time off - both of ya.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by perfectlap
that's kind of crazy. so you aren't really getting anything out of the ordinary even by that period's standards, just an "RS America" badge?
BTW, the stock RSA seats were amongst the best for fit/comfort/support.
There is a lot of good information on Keith V's website www.rsamerica.net
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Originally Posted by bull30
the COA from the President PCNA, he congratulated me on purchasing one of the rarest limited production Porsches ever made...
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Originally Posted by nkhalidi
Is that the document where PCNA charges you a hundred bucks for basically a printout of the car's window sticker?
For me, I'm thrilled as it's just what I was looking for in a Porsche... Just as my wife wanted a 993 wide body... Now we're both happy... Well, until next year anyway
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This is exactly why you all need to find a 20 year old car and fix it up and sell it for what you've invested in it.
I bought my 944 for $1000, and have since put $6000 or so into it to fix it up and make it as close to new as I can. It's a blast to drive, and in the event I choose to sell it, a car in this condition can get about $8000 so I can still make a profit
I bought my 944 for $1000, and have since put $6000 or so into it to fix it up and make it as close to new as I can. It's a blast to drive, and in the event I choose to sell it, a car in this condition can get about $8000 so I can still make a profit
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This is an interesting thread. I have not read all posts but certainly have a perspective based on Porsches that I've been fortunate to own and drive. I have owned three RS Americas and still have my 94 garage queen. I've owned a 2002 Boxster S as well.
Yes, the RSA's have held value and, I believe, does have upside in value. I love to drive the RSA but the Boxster is a better all around car. The three low-production 964's (RSA; Speedster and America Roadster) all have maintained steady values over the past five years. The reality, as much as I love them, the cars were efforts by Porsche to gain margin and help profits more than real advances (like 996 vs. 996 GT3).
The Cayman and Boxsters are incredible cars that sometimes are unfairly blasted by Porsche lovers. I personally appreciated the lineage that exists from 911-964-993-996-997 and have enjoyed each generation. The one car that I would prefer on a daily basis (excluding 997 GT3 here) is a Boxster S.
Also, when measuring the appreciation of the American Roadster, the 89 Speedster has been in the same range for five years. In my opinion, it has more collectibility than the American Roadster. Yes, you will be in a better financial position than a new Cayman but post 90 Porsches are not appreciating at the rate of the early cars. Maybe that will change.
Enjoy your car!
Yes, the RSA's have held value and, I believe, does have upside in value. I love to drive the RSA but the Boxster is a better all around car. The three low-production 964's (RSA; Speedster and America Roadster) all have maintained steady values over the past five years. The reality, as much as I love them, the cars were efforts by Porsche to gain margin and help profits more than real advances (like 996 vs. 996 GT3).
The Cayman and Boxsters are incredible cars that sometimes are unfairly blasted by Porsche lovers. I personally appreciated the lineage that exists from 911-964-993-996-997 and have enjoyed each generation. The one car that I would prefer on a daily basis (excluding 997 GT3 here) is a Boxster S.
Also, when measuring the appreciation of the American Roadster, the 89 Speedster has been in the same range for five years. In my opinion, it has more collectibility than the American Roadster. Yes, you will be in a better financial position than a new Cayman but post 90 Porsches are not appreciating at the rate of the early cars. Maybe that will change.
Enjoy your car!
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Originally Posted by cvanslyk
My first thought was, "what a jerk"
"Jerk"... I guess if that's your definition of someone that sells a car that's boring to drive and dropping like a rock in value, to buy a car that's a blast to drive and appreciating in value not to mention a "Future Collectable"...
Thanks for the compliment
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you should get whatever porsche makes you happy (and if having a porsche doesn't provide you any additional enjoyment then you shouldn't have one at all i guess), but i am not sure i understand buying a porsche as an investment. i would think stocks, bonds, and real estate all have better returns than porsches...no?
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Originally Posted by mborkow
i would think stocks, bonds, and real estate all have better returns than porsches...no?
It's to each's own... I have an ear-to-ear grin when I drive the Roadster... I'm sure many get the same feeling driving their Cayman... I just wasn't one of them... I often wonder how I would have felt if I bought a new 997 Carrera? I have not driven one but I think I would have been thrilled... I think my next Porsche purchase, probably in 2008, will be a GT3...
If Porsche wakes up and decides to put the 3.8 in the Cayman then I may give the Cayman another look... The 3.4 lacks power, especially midrange torque... I'll be the first to admit that I got sucked in by Porsche's outstanding marketing hype... But it did not take long for the thrill to wear off...