KW suspension and torsion bar
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KW suspension and torsion bar
If you fit KW v3 suspension, do you need to delete the torsion bar, or do you end up running both. Basic question, I apologise.
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No you do not delete the torsion bar with the KWV3 but you will probably have to reindex it lower before installation.
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The instructions are a poor translation from German but basically you want to reindex to about the height of a CS unless you already have a CS. From that point height is determined by adjusting the coilovers, you basically have about 30-40mm of adjustment front and back if memory serves me correctly.
I have the V3 don't know about the more recent ClubSport or 2 way race setups
some supension settings from the Uk
http://www.porsche968uk.co.uk/kw-sus...tup-on-968.htm
you'll generally find more info on the KWs over on the 968 UK forums (at least until Patrick chimes in over here ) You may have to go back to the 2006/7 stuff in the suspension forum to find it.
I have the V3 don't know about the more recent ClubSport or 2 way race setups
some supension settings from the Uk
http://www.porsche968uk.co.uk/kw-sus...tup-on-968.htm
you'll generally find more info on the KWs over on the 968 UK forums (at least until Patrick chimes in over here ) You may have to go back to the 2006/7 stuff in the suspension forum to find it.
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Some KW related threads...
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Karl.
Porsche Club GB
- Is KW user friendly? - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=252907
- KW 3 spring rates? - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=234775
- KW Suspension - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=220855
- KW suspension 1 week on! - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=329096
- KW V3 and aftermarket camber/caster plates - opinions... - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=251425
- KW V3 and alignment specifications - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=389200
- KW V3 and T-bars - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=343336
- KW V3: uprated rear springs? - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=337646
- Suspension Upgrade for 944 S2 - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=373729
- What else compares to KWs??? - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=368697
- 968 KW ? - http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=413560 (first mention of the Club Sport)
968uk.com
- 968 KW Geometry Settings - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4946
- Coilover Suspension - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=529
- Comparisons to KW's??? - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5828
- Even more suspension options - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2112
- HELP - Removal of front KW V3 suspension from top mounts - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5575
- Installation of KW V3 system - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3631
- Kw opinions, is it worth it? - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4886
- KW springs for torsion bar removal - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3891
- KW Suspension Spring weight - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1505
- KW V3 and aftermarket camber/caster plates - opinions...- http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4226
- KW, Leda, Koni Yellows or just new springs and shocks - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3517
- New KW suspension report - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1010
- New lap record on the Nürburgring Nordschleife !!! - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2307
- Plunge taken - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1466
- Plunge taken 2: the results - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1616
- Setting up KW V3 suspension on newly acquired 968 - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3337
- Suspension choices - coilovers, lowering springs, shocks - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5204
- Suspension re-fresh - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1227
- KW "Clubsport" - http://www.968uk.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6340
968 Forums
- Current suspension upgrades, Just to let you know... - http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=3198 (KW photos)
- KW Coilovers - anybody have them - http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=3629
- New KW suspension kit in development, to handle 9m 400bhp supercharger power - http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=1858
- Suspension Project - http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=534
- What advantage does Moton/Leda/KW have over M030? - http://www.968forums.com/index.php?showtopic=3214
Rennlist
- $2,500 to spend on suspension upgrades - what to do? - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/437397-2-500-to-spend-on-suspension-upgrades-what-to-do.html (KW v3 recommended by various folks)
- About Leda, but includes some KW discussion - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/335790-leda-shocks-is-closing-shop.html
- KW coilover users (any Americans?) - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/366860-kw-coilover-users-any-americans.html
- KW suspension systems - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/283759-kw-suspension-systems.html
- KW Variant 3 coilovers: A short review - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/396554-kw-variant-3-coilovers-a-short-review.html (page 5 shows an issue)
- KW Variant 3 Question - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/433972-kw-variant-3-question.html
- KW-V3 setting suggestion's? - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/429032-kw-v3-setting-suggestion-s.html
- Looking for Motons-JRZ-Penske - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/320619-looking-for-motons-jrz-penske.html (some discussion on KW)
- Suspension upgrade with 5000 USD budget - https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/391471-suspension-upgrade-with-5000-usd-budget.html
- KW now provides a "Clubsport" suspension package - https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-944-951-968-forum/467714-kw-now-provides-a-clubsport-suspension-package.html
- KW Suspension - Clubsport Model - https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...ort-model.html
- KW suspension and torsion bar - https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...rsion-bar.html
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Karl, that's great. It's very interesting to see the activity on the various 968 internet sites on this topic
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I installed a KW V3 on a 951. Great parts. Indexing the rear T-bars was not a problem. I set them at about where the 30mm t-bars would be and it worked out great. The goal is to have both springs share the load and set the ride height with the coilovers. PM me for more details.
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Agreed. My 968 Turbo still has the M030 brakes even though I upgraded to the KW V3, Charlie Arms and Kokelyn Sway Bars. My advice would be do the Charlie Arms first, then KW V3's, then Sway Bars.
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How do you know if the two will mate? If I get the KW V3 suspension for my 944 and I get Camber/Caster Plates from Ground Control and the top of the suspension and the plates are both 60mm, will they work?
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Yes as long as you order the correct top hat they will work.
I have the top mount GC mounts and KW V3s. It does mean you have to assemble them on the car as you need to put the strut up through the tower and the mount before installing the top nut. You will discard the top hat from the KWs when you do this.
One thing to note, GC recommends trimming the hood on the 968 with these mounts. They don't mention it anywhere on the site but when you get the product, it's in the instructions (which I think is kind of lame).
I'm restoring my car right now so haven't fully installed the suspension but I haven't noticed any real issue that would require this but that may change when it's all back together. The issue is that the edge of the mount will interfere with the curve of the underlying hood skeleton (the part that normally curves around the factory mount).
James
I have the top mount GC mounts and KW V3s. It does mean you have to assemble them on the car as you need to put the strut up through the tower and the mount before installing the top nut. You will discard the top hat from the KWs when you do this.
One thing to note, GC recommends trimming the hood on the 968 with these mounts. They don't mention it anywhere on the site but when you get the product, it's in the instructions (which I think is kind of lame).
I'm restoring my car right now so haven't fully installed the suspension but I haven't noticed any real issue that would require this but that may change when it's all back together. The issue is that the edge of the mount will interfere with the curve of the underlying hood skeleton (the part that normally curves around the factory mount).
James