Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
12-26-2017, 12:50 PM
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I agree, $2k to $5k seems light. Probably closer to $10k difference unless seller is ok with car sitting on market for 12+ months until right buyer comes along.
12-26-2017, 09:47 PM
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For what it's worth, I am in the market for a 964,,, and have been looking for several months.... I can tell you that i would not even consider an Automatic (Tiptronic)..... I did have a 1999 Carrera with Tiptronic ,,,, and liked it at the time. I know that the 996 Tip was rated far better than the 964 Tip,,,,but to give you a sense of Market appeal,,,,I wouldn't even consider a 964 Tip.
12-26-2017, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by afshinbahrami
For what it's worth, I am in the market for a 964,,, and have been looking for several months.... I can tell you that i would not even consider an Automatic (Tiptronic)..... I did have a 1999 Carrera with Tiptronic ,,,, and liked it at the time. I know that the 996 Tip was rated far better than the 964 Tip,,,,but to give you a sense of Market appeal,,,,I wouldn't even consider a 964 Tip.
12-29-2017, 04:23 PM
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How much you think this beauty will sell for?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...1-carrera-2-2/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...1-carrera-2-2/
12-29-2017, 04:36 PM
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Wow my estimate was spot on, even with the replaced rear quarter panel and hood respray/replacement.
That’s a strong outcome and definitely says something about the market. I’m convinced many here are underestimating the values of these cars, there are so few good ones out there. I’ve found that even the “high end” dealers don’t always have good examples but still ask for and often get top dollar.
That’s a strong outcome and definitely says something about the market. I’m convinced many here are underestimating the values of these cars, there are so few good ones out there. I’ve found that even the “high end” dealers don’t always have good examples but still ask for and often get top dollar.
12-29-2017, 04:44 PM
#3546
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Wow my estimate was spot on, even with the replaced rear quarter panel and hood respray/replacement.
That’s a strong outcome and definitely says something about the market. I’m convinced many here are underestimating the values of these cars, there are so few good ones out there. I’ve found that even the “high end” dealers don’t always have good examples but still ask for and often get top dollar.
12-29-2017, 04:47 PM
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Wow my estimate was spot on, even with the replaced rear quarter panel and hood respray/replacement.
That’s a strong outcome and definitely says something about the market. I’m convinced many here are underestimating the values of these cars, there are so few good ones out there. I’ve found that even the “high end” dealers don’t always have good examples but still ask for and often get top dollar.
12-30-2017, 08:43 AM
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I think the recent BaT sale was a bit of an anomaly. I think a few people got really excited about the long-term ownership and low mileage and ignored the body/paint work as well as the fact that it wasn't really in exceptional condition. For a car with only 23K miles it looked kind of rough: Soiled carpets, worn leather, and corrosion that looked out of place on a well-maintained car. I know everyone was gushing about how rare Horizon Blue/Linen was, but to me it is a color combo that looks more appropriate on a Grand Marquis. If it was a rare AND desirable color, that would be another thing altogether.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
12-30-2017, 11:23 AM
#3549
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Little surprised a car that had body work brought that much. The market is strong for good cars. I had to pay over $100k for a special no stories car. Much nicer than this car. Good cars will continue to rise in value much like the good 67-73 cars did a few years back.
Economy is getting better. Supply is low. Better get one while you can before there all gone. $100k for a good 964 is right around the corner.
Economy is getting better. Supply is low. Better get one while you can before there all gone. $100k for a good 964 is right around the corner.
12-30-2017, 11:44 AM
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I think the recent BaT sale was a bit of an anomaly. I think a few people got really excited about the long-term ownership and low mileage and ignored the body/paint work as well as the fact that it wasn't really in exceptional condition. For a car with only 23K miles it looked kind of rough: Soiled carpets, worn leather, and corrosion that looked out of place on a well-maintained car. I know everyone was gushing about how rare Horizon Blue/Linen was, but to me it is a color combo that looks more appropriate on a Grand Marquis. If it was a rare AND desirable color, that would be another thing altogether.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
12-30-2017, 10:50 PM
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Add up all the pros and cons noted and this car IMO sold for what it should have. If there were no ? regarding body work and a little effort into cleaning it up better I would have expected it to bring closer to 6 figures. I think this car solidifies what we know about the 964 coupe market. This car had some boxes checked we haven't seen in a while. A better test of the market no doubt would be a similar car without any ?.
When I first started searching air cooled cars the 964 was not coming up in my searches and budget other than cabs and tips. My search was for a sub 100K mile car with very good cosmetics, recent top end rebuild, good compression and updated maintenance history below $50k. I know asking prices are not necessarily sell prices but to be honest I never came across anything that matched my cosmetic criteria at $55K to investigate further. I got lucky with my Targa and had the seller spent any real amount of time taking decent pictures and providing the history he would have easily gotten another $10k.
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12-30-2017, 11:39 PM
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I think the recent BaT sale was a bit of an anomaly. I think a few people got really excited about the long-term ownership and low mileage and ignored the body/paint work as well as the fact that it wasn't really in exceptional condition. For a car with only 23K miles it looked kind of rough: Soiled carpets, worn leather, and corrosion that looked out of place on a well-maintained car. I know everyone was gushing about how rare Horizon Blue/Linen was, but to me it is a color combo that looks more appropriate on a Grand Marquis. If it was a rare AND desirable color, that would be another thing altogether.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
In the end, I think auction fever struck because it was a C2 manual coupe. I don't think this result is repeatable or reflects a sudden increase in values. And if it had been anything other than a C2, manual, coupe, it probably wouldn't have brought half as much.
12-31-2017, 10:54 AM
#3553
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the Montana title thing is pretty common. a lot of people register cars and RVs there to avoid taxes. theres something like 26 Mclaren P1 registered in Montana...
https://www.bozemandailychronicle.co...c0bf7e398.html
https://www.bozemandailychronicle.co...c0bf7e398.html
12-31-2017, 07:57 PM
#3555
Wonder if this is a real one
Only one in red? Cross listed on eBay for $261,000, seems like a fair deal given the mileage.
https://www.excellauto.com/1992-pors...p-car-c-51.htm
https://www.excellauto.com/1992-pors...p-car-c-51.htm