VW/Audi 07K (2.5L 20V I5) Swap Thread
#91
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What would you use for a flywheel and how would you mount it inside the bellhousing of a trans at the rear? I don't see how this would work without major fabrication and design. You'd have to perfectly balance a large mass at the end of the tiny TT shaft.
#94
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Damn junkyard sent me a 944 bellhousing even though they said it was from an '80 931! Their overcharged shipping rate is non-refundable too!
#96
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It's possible and an option I might explore. The top portion of the 944 bellhousing has to be chopped off for sure. A 924 bellhousing looks like it's an option too and it places the starter forward like on longitudinal Audi engines. It just requires the hydraulic TOB since it's cable. If I can't find a 931 soon, I'm definitely thinking the 924 is the next route to explore. It would also require a spacer, but Audi made those OEM so that's not a problem. It actually would probably help line up a few more holes and could be welded to the bellhousing for extra strength.
#97
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It's possible and an option I might explore. The top portion of the 944 bellhousing has to be chopped off for sure. A 924 bellhousing looks like it's an option too and it places the starter forward like on longitudinal Audi engines. It just requires the hydraulic TOB since it's cable. If I can't find a 931 soon, I'm definitely thinking the 924 is the next route to explore. It would also require a spacer, but Audi made those OEM so that's not a problem. It actually would probably help line up a few more holes and could be welded to the bellhousing for extra strength.
#98
I've already got an Audi with a swapped engine (32V 4.2L V8 which will eventually get replaced with an S8 40V 4.2L V8 + a turbo).
I want a better engine in my 968 and feel this is a way to do it and at a cheaper cost than building the 951 engine. Not to mention the aural pleasure of an I5 exhaust note.
I want a better engine in my 968 and feel this is a way to do it and at a cheaper cost than building the 951 engine. Not to mention the aural pleasure of an I5 exhaust note.
Great plan with the I5. Porsche SHOULD have taken the I5T they massaged for Audi in the RS2 and put it in a few 968s. That would have been cool. So I'm looking forward to see your project progress, and good luck to you!
And what is this watered-down S2 you speak of?
Take care,
#99
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Stock V8 is pretty comparable to a mildly modded I5 without turbo lag.
The '90-'91 Coupe Quattro that North America got. S2 body, but non-turbo 7A engine, crappy USA bumpers, and 4-lug wheels.
#100
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So, another idea I've had. If I go the route of an adapter plate with the 951 bellhousing, I can change the engine mounting angle as desired. VW/Audi generally do 15* in both longitudinal and transverse. There was a vanagon diesel that mounted an I4 at 50* and I've seen someone use that bellhousing to mount a 1.8T at 50* with no problems. The 944 is 30* and the 924 (2.0L Audi engine) was 40*. If I mounted the 07K at somewhere between 15* and 30*, I might be able to use the stock pan or at least be able to mod the steel lower portion and not touch the upper aluminum part. The pickup would need to be modified, but that's easy.
#101
Steel adaptor with a 960 auto bellhousing
Block bolted to torque tube
Engine in with the 944 parked beside my 90 20v in same colour...
#102
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Thanks for the link to your thread Alex. Its a shame the timing of all of this. I just moved from Seattle about 6 months ago. I'll be watching and learning (from your mistakes!)
#103
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No new progress, I've been working on getting the wiring harness for my Audi built so I can finish installing VEMS standalone. I did score a set of 18x8, 18x10 Speedline Alessios for $100 on craigslist They're chrome and need some work, but it'll be worth it to refinish them for sure. Will use them as street wheels since they aren't as wide as I'd like for the track. I've got a square 18x10 setup for that.
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Slightly off topic. European Car magazine has an article on someone swapping the modern I5 into an original ur Quattro coupe. I think they claimed 480 hp. Engine choice validated.
Article also said they started with a Golf block and built it up to handle turbo power.
Article also said they started with a Golf block and built it up to handle turbo power.