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Old 08-28-2012, 02:27 AM
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Aww, can you guys get a room...heheh

Here you go Sid. Just pull the motor out and put in your own! Actually looks like it's been pretty well done.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pro-S...2ab21fbf#v4-43
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C'mon Patrick you should know me better than this by now.. I have no interest if I can't drive it daily. I'm over the tubbed car scene. Plus it's not my color.....

But... I do have a new goal..To make the top 20 of this:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Porsche--al...l?resultpage=1
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Ha, yeah I knew it wasn't really your thing. I just happened across it while looking for something else.

I think you can make that list Sid. Bit more traction and boost. Maybe lose a couple more lbs from the car?
Assuming also that some of the cars on that list were all out racecars too.
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Originally Posted by blown 944
C'mon Patrick you should know me better than this by now.. I have no interest if I can't drive it daily. I'm over the tubbed car scene. Plus it's not my color.....

But... I do have a new goal..To make the top 20 of this:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Porsche--al...l?resultpage=1
It can never happen. A 944 drag racing. I just don't believe it. It can't be done....

I think it is awesome what you are doing here. Using the car in way that every car nut likes to compare their cars. 1/4 mile. Why don't you just move to a lower elevation so you can get some better air. Have you thought about running at Topeka, KS?
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Sid, do you have any logs of video from full acceleration? I'd be extremely interested in your 100-150 km/h and 100-200 km/h times. That's 62.5-93.75 mph and 62.5-125 mph for those not familiar with km/h.

I'd say that the 100-200 km/h sprint is more or less the universal performance indicator for fast cars here in Europe. Not many drag their tuned Porsche, GT-R, Lambo etc. around here.
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Originally Posted by Duke
Sid, do you have any logs of video from full acceleration? I'd be extremely interested in your 100-150 km/h and 100-200 km/h times. That's 62.5-93.75 mph and 62.5-125 mph for those not familiar with km/h.

I'd say that the 100-200 km/h sprint is more or less the universal performance indicator for fast cars here in Europe. Not many drag their tuned Porsche, GT-R, Lambo etc. around here.
i thought it would be 60-100 mph? 96km/h - 161 km/h as that's that most cars are tested on, on paper?

i did 4.8 seconds 60-100 for argument sake.
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Originally Posted by 86 951 Driver
It can never happen. A 944 drag racing. I just don't believe it. It can't be done....

I think it is awesome what you are doing here. Using the car in way that every car nut likes to compare their cars. 1/4 mile. Why don't you just move to a lower elevation so you can get some better air. Have you thought about running at Topeka, KS?
Yes, I've thought about it. There is a track in manhattan that is 1000'. It's not too far either. I doubt I'll go to Topeka. Other than just to get a good time I'm not sure what the point would be... I'm not that hardcore
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Originally Posted by Duke
Sid, do you have any logs of video from full acceleration? I'd be extremely interested in your 100-150 km/h and 100-200 km/h times. That's 62.5-93.75 mph and 62.5-125 mph for those not familiar with km/h.

I'd say that the 100-200 km/h sprint is more or less the universal performance indicator for fast cars here in Europe. Not many drag their tuned Porsche, GT-R, Lambo etc. around here.
What is regarded as the most accurate way of measuring? For the same reason that I prefer the mph over dynos I would want the results to not be subjective.
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Originally Posted by blown 944
What is regarded as the most accurate way of measuring? For the same reason that I prefer the mph over dynos I would want the results to not be subjective.
In-car datalogging usually requires something like a Performance-/Drift-box to be accepted but a datalog from the EMS/ECU could also work as an indicator.

Trap speed is probably one of the best ways of determinig performance but since very few cars actually drag their cars here it doesn't make for a good comparison value.

But IMHO a dyno also has its value from an engineering point of view since it leaves out parameteres such as weight, traction, gearing, driver etc.
But if you want to make sure not to be questioned here in Sweden you have to dyno at a Rototest facility which is one of the most accurate hub dynos available.
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Originally Posted by Paulyy
i thought it would be 60-100 mph? 96km/h - 161 km/h as that's that most cars are tested on, on paper?

i did 4.8 seconds 60-100 for argument sake.
In Britain yes, but the rest of the ~40 countries in Europe use km/h not mph
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Also interested in ball park times for 100-150 kph and 100-200 kph.

Quarter mile times leave me cold since I don't intend to beat up my tranny on a standing start.
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Originally Posted by Duke
In Britain yes, but the rest of the ~40 countries in Europe use km/h not mph
i use km/h too 100-200 would be interesting though, with gear changing in the perspective!
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Originally Posted by Duke
Sid, do you have any logs of video from full acceleration? I'd be extremely interested in your 100-150 km/h and 100-200 km/h times. That's 62.5-93.75 mph and 62.5-125 mph for those not familiar with km/h.

I'd say that the 100-200 km/h sprint is more or less the universal performance indicator for fast cars here in Europe. Not many drag their tuned Porsche, GT-R, Lambo etc. around here.
Yes it is. See below


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e... I'm not that hardcore
But, when you come to Houston, you will get to do that at 45ft elev!

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What is regarded as the most accurate way of measuring? For the same reason that I prefer the mph over dynos I would want the results to not be subjective.
Sixspeedonline has been doing this for years and are pretty much THE list to go by in the states. TX is pretty strong for this. Long flat straight. Many use the TX mile stats as their numbers. There are rules for this list and how to get an accurate, agreed on method. It is detailed on the first page. I will be up on this page now that I have the IQ3 GPS datalogger. They are a bunch of guys with money, so having a GPS recorder for this isn't as big a deal as it is for us "regular" folks. But I was going to do it as I have a few Rennlist friends that own one. I'm sure there might be a few in Colorado that have one and are willing to share and record?

I'm on the1/4mile list under "Older Model Porsches" lol. Sid, get in there and make more awareness for us. The quickest 60-130mph is 3.4 sec!!! Mine would have been around the 7 second mark, just under 8. Sids will be squarely in the 7's until he turns it up to 25psi. Then he should be .. well faster.

-6speedonlines-official-60-130-1-4-mile-standing-mile-list.html


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In Britain yes, but the rest of the ~40 countries in Europe use km/h not mph
We're catching on a little. see post above.
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I'll have to figure something out then. Maybe we can extrapolate something from my logs..

For a point of reference though factory GTRs run 117 and modded ones are running between 122-126. A full out race effort ran 151

Factory Zo6 cars run around 115 and tuned cars run around 122

A highly tuned 911 tt ran 135 on e85

I do know I'm nowhere close to the top dogs but as long as I can run with the newer high hp cars I'm ok with it.

I will try to figure something out though so you have a reference for the stds you use. I'd like to see how it compares.
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Originally Posted by blown 944
I'll have to figure something out then. Maybe we can extrapolate something from my logs..

For a point of reference though factory GTRs run 117 and modded ones are running between 122-126. A full out race effort ran 151

Factory Zo6 cars run around 115 and tuned cars run around 122

A highly tuned 911 tt ran 135 on e85

I do know I'm nowhere close to the top dogs but as long as I can run with the newer high hp cars I'm ok with it.

I will try to figure something out though so you have a reference for the stds you use. I'd like to see how it compares.
SID, if you get a chance, it would be cool to see you register on that site and post up your time slips. It will certainly get their attention. !

Further in that Thread, it details out the rules and way to verify. Variance in grade of elevation can't be more than a certain percent, verified by gps this and that. - Down hill racing is cheating is what they are saying. - They are very strict, but very accurate and good at keeping out the B.S. But your time slip is enough for the 1/4 mile stuff.


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