Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

My norwegian track car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-20-2008, 05:36 AM
  #46  
Duke
Nordschleife Master
 
Duke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 5,552
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by guards red 951
yes, that is right. but I can understand question about this.. because I cant really understand how its gonna help either! cuz if you space out the tie rod, you still have to adjust the tie rod ends in..?

I just barrowed it from a friend of mine, who has a 200sx s14.. I dont know if the steering rack is the same on those cars.

he said it would work on my car, so I dont know.. I can try


what else can I do too get more steering angle? anyone!
The only way to get more steering angle is probably to modify/change the rack itself.
As you said, spacering out the tie rods will only get you a lot of toe out!
Let's pretend for a moment that you did get more angle outward. You would still get less angle inward so it can never work.

But spacering the tie rod down vertical is a good idea if the car is much lower than stock. That would get a straighter steering rod angle and will reduce bump steer. It might give you a tiiiny increase in steering angle since the rod will work straight and not upwards.
Old 08-20-2008, 10:51 AM
  #47  
guards red 951
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
guards red 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

yes, thats what I tought! I will do some serious reseach on modifying the steering rack this winter. It will be a interesting process! anyway, I WILL get more steering angle
I will keep you updated.

If I use the D2 or other aftermarket s14 tie rod ends, it will strait out the tie rod angle a lot. plus it is alot more solid. the only thing I have to do to make it fit, is to grind the hole in the spindle. but its not much at all.
Old 08-20-2008, 11:15 AM
  #48  
A.Wayne
Formula One Spin Doctor
Rennlist Member
 
A.Wayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: RPM Central
Posts: 20,448
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by guards red 951
yes, thats what I tought! I will do some serious reseach on modifying the steering rack this winter. It will be a interesting process! anyway, I WILL get more steering angle
I will keep you updated.

If I use the D2 or other aftermarket s14 tie rod ends, it will strait out the tie rod angle a lot. plus it is alot more solid. the only thing I have to do to make it fit, is to grind the hole in the spindle. but its not much at all.
You can buy a quick rack for golfs and convert to manual .........
Old 08-20-2008, 12:24 PM
  #49  
guards red 951
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
guards red 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what year model? golf 2..?


is it a lot of job to make it fit?
Old 08-21-2008, 07:11 PM
  #50  
guards red 951
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
guards red 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have fixed the steering issue, but now something else is wierd.

I was on a large empty space, just practicing with the car, burning and just having fun, when I found out that the engine died out on me all the time. (It has been like this before, but not this extreme)

is this coused by MAF and open BOV setup? it gets very rich afr when the dump opens, and the engine stops...

i hate that!! at WOT, the AFR is right, but when I step of the gas after the engine has boost, while braking down, it dies!

will stand alone with MAP sensor make it better? anyway, I will change to stand alone this winter. I am tired of MAF/piggyback..

also, it is not easy to "drift" with a large turbo. when I get in to low RPM, it's a little slow building boost up.

I need a dual BB turbo!!



porsch abusing tires, + awsome bimmer at the end!!


Old 08-21-2008, 08:25 PM
  #51  
A.Wayne
Formula One Spin Doctor
Rennlist Member
 
A.Wayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: RPM Central
Posts: 20,448
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Haaa, ahh , Do Scandinavians always drift in Pairs

Last edited by A.Wayne; 08-22-2008 at 10:24 AM.
Old 08-21-2008, 09:07 PM
  #52  
333pg333
Rennlist Member
 
333pg333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 18,923
Received 97 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

It's part of their Summer mating ritual....
Old 08-22-2008, 04:10 AM
  #53  
anders44
Three Wheelin'
 
anders44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

have you got a MAF, and open BOV? that wont work.

you need a standalone good engine mgmt system to run open dump, or get a resirc one.
Old 08-22-2008, 07:24 AM
  #54  
Olli Snellman
Race Car
 
Olli Snellman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

porsch abusing tires, + awsome bimmer at the end!!
Akkurat, what else can i say I especially loved that BMW. Check out what i got, bought it a year ago for 100€




Haaa, ahh , Do Swedes always drift in Pairs
Do not about the Swedes but Norweigans seems to.
Old 08-22-2008, 11:05 AM
  #55  
guards red 951
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
guards red 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hahaha, summer mating ritual...

yes, anders. to bad its too late in the season to change to resirc bov.. and the tial flange is welded to the hard pipe...

what stand alone system do you guys recomment?


the TEC3R, with the bolt on package from SFR seems to be very good!

what about autronic SM4?


Olli Snellman: hehe, "akkurat".. yeah, E30 are cool cars!! M50b25 engine with turbo, and that car would have kicked my ***

I love BMW engines with turbo. and it's very popular these days. there are lots of awsome bmw turbo engines running around in scandinavia now.
Old 08-22-2008, 03:57 PM
  #56  
anders44
Three Wheelin'
 
anders44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by guards red 951
hahaha, summer mating ritual...

yes, anders. to bad its too late in the season to change to resirc bov.. and the tial flange is welded to the hard pipe...

what stand alone system do you guys recomment?


the TEC3R, with the bolt on package from SFR seems to be very good!

what about autronic SM4?


Olli Snellman: hehe, "akkurat".. yeah, E30 are cool cars!! M50b25 engine with turbo, and that car would have kicked my ***

I love BMW engines with turbo. and it's very popular these days. there are lots of awsome bmw turbo engines running around in scandinavia now.
I have some friends in sweden that can install, and map the engine with VEMS, you need a 60-2 trigger, but that's not much work. neither is makeing a camtrigger to allow full sequential. they do a lottttt of bmw turbo cars.. damn thats an easy way to get power

open BOV + maf = just useless
Old 08-22-2008, 04:18 PM
  #57  
Olli Snellman
Race Car
 
Olli Snellman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 4,479
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I suppose the easiest way to do it to install new Vitesse system which have both MAF & MAP...
VEMS installation is not a plug ´n ´play system
Old 08-22-2008, 05:13 PM
  #58  
anders44
Three Wheelin'
 
anders44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

never said it was, hence the need for a pro to install and map it

thats the most important thing with all EFI, someone knowledgeable to contact for support.
Old 08-22-2008, 07:59 PM
  #59  
guards red 951
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
guards red 951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by anders44
I have some friends in sweden that can install, and map the engine with VEMS, you need a 60-2 trigger, but that's not much work. neither is makeing a camtrigger to allow full sequential. they do a lottttt of bmw turbo cars.. damn thats an easy way to get power

open BOV + maf = just useless

nice! where in sweden is that? do they have a homepage?

was planing on full sequential ignition. that is one coil for each cylinder right?

VEMS seems to be a very good Management System.

I can install the system myself, I would like to learn that. also making crank and cam trigger. any ideas where to make that?
oooor is it pure hell installing it with not much experience..?

but the mapping is a job for the experts.. your friends know the VEMS, ragarding mapping and possible problem issues??

VEMS would be a lot cheaper than TEC3, but maybe I have to make more custom solutions.

what are your engine plans, anders? are you going to use VEMS?


sorry Olli, no more piggyback on me.

Last edited by guards red 951; 08-22-2008 at 08:14 PM.
Old 08-22-2008, 09:39 PM
  #60  
95ONE
Race Car
 
95ONE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 4,247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't be in denial like I was for so long.
Just go change BOV to a recirc one. Pay someone to make a new one.
Its going to stall constantly while you're drifting. Or just deal with it as you have been. But a large turbo and stalling with atmospheric BOV are going to make your drifting extremely tough. Late in the season or not. It needs to be changed right now do do anything competitive.

A beautiful creation none the less


Quick Reply: My norwegian track car



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:51 AM.