333pg333

hehehe Bump ah, the good ol days....

Rogue_Ant

LOL, you must have been looking at the same thread as me....


-Rogue

Kool

So what was the resolution?

theedge

That for 25 Rennlisters theres 38.5 different opinions.

Kool

And we figured that out in 21 pages.

I also learned that Chris likes accuracy and Nize likes wolf 3D.

theedge

I think that if I had to buy an off the shelf system, id get a Link G4. It looks like an excellent system. The Wolf3D system is nice, but then youre using the stock harness.... Thats its biggest downside IMHO.

Kool

Can you tell me why you say that?

I really want to know. I am buying on in the near future.

theedge

Its a good price ($1300-1400USD for the G4 Extreme, less for the G4 Storm) and has a crap load of features, including gear compensation for timing and boost, OEM idle support (I assume itll do our 3 wire Bosch valves, theyre very common idle valves), supports lots of triggers (unsure about ours, ive only looked at the brochure), 8 channel sequential injection and spark, onboard logging, onboard barometric compensation, boost control with gear or throttle or speed reference, etc.

Lots of features that others dont have, OR that you have to pay extra for. Several people on here have the Link G3 and have said good things, and I quite like my Link KnockBlock that I have. I like the Wolf as well, but it doesnt seem to mention some of the features that the Link G4 has on the Wolf website.

TO ME PERSONALLY plug and play is not a consideration. To some it is and thats fine, so keep that in mind with my posts. My stock harness was a pile of **** when I removed it, so getting excited about plug and play when youre only going to have to spend money and time to fix and improve the stock harness seems a bit counterproductive to me. Chris White has said the same thing a few times.

Raceboy

Just for the record, VEMS has also all of these features, including stock 944/951 trigger arrangement and 3wire idle valve support. I'm using 3wire IAC from Porsche 993 on my daily driver Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 with VEMS.

Chris White

The Electromotive TecGT comes in silver......its pretty.

A.Wayne

MPD47

It's to bad they ditched the purple boxes. All the Miata guys claim purple is fast, Kokeln seems to agree. Are they on to something?

theedge

Ive always wanted to kill whoever started the purple car parts fad. TEC, Kokelkn, so many camber plates for different cars.... Ugh.

BC

I was all for VEMS from years ago. But with the lack of any sort of serious support, constant firmware changes in some sort of vicious "Crap my firmware update ditched all my settings" circle of hell, and that damn freaking wiki, which represents the real attitude of the developers, which is "I understand it, but I have an alien brain and eat transistors for breakfast - I don't give a **** if you can't understand this garbage"

And now with the exchange rate, with a loom, its very little different than the Link G4 extreme/VIPEC V88. No Mystery, no drama.

BC

Ray Hall of Autronic is now supporting the VIPEC V44 and V88s, which are very good boxes, based on the Link G4 boxes.