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Old 09-26-2011, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
I can't imagine anything other than a toothed roller would have stopped the belt dead like that. The interesting thing is, as Sterling says the crank gear is good, then why would IT kill the belt there and not the oil pump (if that is the culprit) ... Actually, this way the only possibility is the cams - they have most traction.
The oil pump gear is a toothed roller, so I think it is a possibility. The cam gears have the most wrap, so my guess is they are more likely to stop the belt and cause the crank gear to strip teeth. We had a seized water pump (not a toothed roller) do something similar locally (lots of stripped teeth at the crank gear), but there was real obvious evidence of the water pump seizure.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:09 PM
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the belt fuzz was on the tensioner side of the crank cog. The oil pump spins easily as well as the waterpump. Passenger cam could rotate back and forth, but drivers side cam did not. I will get a closer look at it tonight.

no high torque starter..... just stock.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sterling
no high torque starter..... just stock.
Only stock part on the car.

Sterling,
If you need help on the car, you know I'm willing.....just give me a call
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:29 PM
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Default death by variocam.....

Thanks everyone for the offers to help. I got the drivers cam cover off, and the variocam chain tensioner pad broke, and got wedged onto the exhaust cam teeth.

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Old 09-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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Sterling... happy it wasn't worse. Makes sense now eh?
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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How the hell did this happen? They are all OE 968 Porsche parts right?
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
How the hell did this happen? They are all OE 968 Porsche parts right?
I'm not sure....Shame on Porsche for not testing it on a 6.5 liter V8 that revs to 7K RPM's


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Old 09-26-2011, 10:14 PM
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That pad looks like it was made to fit around the sprocket
Isn't this an occasional problem with 968s? I vaguely remember something about their tensioners.

If there's anything I can do to help I'll be here for you.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:17 PM
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thats a bummer Sterling,
I hope that there are not any pistons damaged
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:27 PM
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I guess the silver lining is that I started collecting parts to replace the variocam about 3 years ago.... I have heads with 968 intake valves cleaned bagged and ready to go, Simard billet gun drilled cams, Ott ITB's all ready to bolt on... I even have the headgaskets..... In the next few weeks I will be mocking up fuel lines, as well as an airbox, and fabbing up a custom cross brace.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:35 PM
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How long had that pad been in the engine?
It has the brown color of a very old pad or long interval oil changes.
But then again the cam gears are very brown with broken teeth also.

Your car is pretty brown also...............

Still sucks man.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:44 PM
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Hmmm I don't see any broken teeth.......Pads were new when I built the engine several years ago. The cams were finished with a copper like finish and parkerizing on the lobes...

They looked like this when new

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Looks like the tooth at about the one oclock position is broken, and it may just be the picture on both, but it sure looks like a lot of deposits on the cam, but I see no deposits on the cam bearings, so it may just be the lighting.

EDIT: picture when sharpened and lightened show the teeth not broken.
Sorry for giving you a WTF moment buddy.
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no worries... the cams are likely to hang on the wall and never be used again.... everything from the head gaskets on up are going to be replaced....
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:41 PM
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Sterling. Do your variocam heads use triple square or allen head bolts to hold the bearing caps down. Looks like allen head but tough to tell with the oil in them.
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