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Old 05-15-2015, 12:31 AM
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Somehow I was imagining less wires because of the Isis, which I am sure they have renamed now,
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Somehow I was imagining less wires because of the Isis, which I am sure they have renamed now,
Yup, it's called InfinityBox now

Estimating 20%-30% reduction in wiring. Most switches, like headlight switch goes from 9 or 10 wires down to 3 or 4, all 22 AWG versus 12,14 AWG for some wires. Ignition switch goes from 12 wires to 4, also 22 AWG instead of 12 and 14 AWG. Similar reduction in wiper stalk, turn signal stalk etc. Most noticeable change is the cable runs, instead of running power wires from the CEB all the way forward or aft, the only run from respective power cell to area where power is requested. Smaller wire can also be used for some loads as every light is now LED. Not a single bulb in this car is incandescent.

But I have added features, and added some redundancy in both wire gauge increase and added grounds for some loads. Still looks a bit messy, but it should be not only less wires but also lighter than stock.

The goal is to keep every creature comfort that was stock, and add some additional ones, and that does take wires. One could add another power cell or two to cut down on wires further, but at over $500 a piece, I think this is a good compromise.

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Default Auto Dimming Mirror Wiring

Part of the project was to improve the rearview mirror and the "look" from the inside, giving it a more modern look, yet making it look like the mirror belongs there. I had previously used an aftermarket auto dimming mirror, with reading lights and compass, but it was a bit too big, and I never liked the green display.
The stock mirror is way too small, and the previous auto dimming mirror I had was a bit bulky. This one seems just right

So I purchased an auto dimming mirror from a 2000 Audi A6 (1997 to 2002 works) since it used a "regular" windshield mounted attachment point. Later models require the ceramic fritline to be already present on the windshield (baked on at the factory). It has a nice cover that hides the mirror wiring (and radar detector wiring) within the mirror body. And it comes with compass readout in red which matches my nighttime instrument lighting and is easier on the eyes.

Wiring can be done 2 ways, either get the matching male connector (6-pins) from Audi or simply remove the mirror side connector and solder some extension wires on the required wires, which is the way I went.

Only 2 wires are the minimum needed (+12V, GND), but I chose to use a 3rd wire which turns off the auto dimming when the car is put in reverse. The remaining wires are for connection to auto dimming sideview mirrors, which I am not using so they were sealed off with heat shrink. So the pins that need to be used (they are marked on the connector) are:

Pin #1 - White (+12V)
Pin #2 - Black (Gnd)
Pin #3 - Grey (connect to reverse lights for no-dim during reverse)

Also needed is the windshield attachment button ($7.95 new online) available at http://glasswarepro.com

It took about 20 minutes to solder on the extension cables and I chose to use red for +12V, black for GND, and white for the reverse connection. Hoping to have the garage cool tomorrow morning (max temp for glue application is 75 F) and will post pictures once installed.

Cheers!
Carl
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The level of detail and thoughtfulness in building this masterpiece is overwhelming. My mouth drops open in awe with each post.

Excuse me while I go cry now.
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Originally Posted by FLYVMO
So I purchased an auto dimming mirror from a 2000 Audi A6 (1997 to 2002 works) since it used a "regular" windshield mounted attachment point. Later models require the ceramic fritline to be already present on the windshield (baked on at the factory). It has a nice cover that hides the mirror wiring (and radar detector wiring) within the mirror body. And it comes with compass readout in red which matches my nighttime instrument lighting and is easier on the eyes.
Oh nice, thanks.

The auto-dimming mirror is a mod I've had on my to-do list for a while, as being so low in the 928, SUV dipped headlights are a problem.

I was aware the A6 mirror was a candidate, but I didn't know the A6 mirrors came with compasses in some countries (aussie A6's didn't get the compass).
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This build is AMAZING! It's great to see the other ways to do things - your wiring and control system is uber-cool!
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Man, I love this build - feel slighted when a day goes by without a progress update. Keep up the inspirational work.

I went with the Gentex frameless with auto-dimming and Homelink buttons on my Spyder project, then mounted the V1 underneath.
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Gentlemen, you are making me blush
Thank you for the kind comments. Here is a very useful "cross-thread" link posted by Alan regarding other interior mirror options: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...eferrerid=6055

Petza914, that is a really cool mirror! How is the frame-less experience when driving? Any difference?

Cheers!
Carl
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Originally Posted by Hilton
Oh nice, thanks.

The auto-dimming mirror is a mod I've had on my to-do list for a while, as being so low in the 928, SUV dipped headlights are a problem.

I was aware the A6 mirror was a candidate, but I didn't know the A6 mirrors came with compasses in some countries (aussie A6's didn't get the compass).
Hilton,

We have a lot of very special drivers over here that need all the help available to help with situational awareness

Cheers!
Carl
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Originally Posted by FLYVMO

Petza914, that is a really cool mirror! How is the frame-less experience when driving? Any difference?

Cheers!
Carl
Thanks Carl. It's great. What sent me down this path was that it's like the mirror in the current Camaros. Had one of those as a rental car and then when I was looking at the Gentex mirrors, saw this series and went for it. They have the frameless versions with most, if not all, their standard feature sets - Homelink, auto-dimming, compass, embedded display screen for back-up cameras, etc.
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Originally Posted by Ninjaxz750
The level of detail and thoughtfulness in building this masterpiece is overwhelming. My mouth drops open in awe with each post.
What he said.
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Originally Posted by The Fixer
It's been said recently w/in this forum that there isn't much in the way of interesting 928 projects to warrant inclusion in Porsche magazines.

This one sure is.
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Originally Posted by BigAl1
This build is AMAZING! It's great to see the other ways to do things - your wiring and control system is uber-cool!
Hi BigAl, and thank you. Great to see that you are back with your build, now we need more pictures and progress updates on your sweet car!

Cheers!
Carl
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Amazing work , Carl. Are you happy, or frustrated? When I am working on a project, it's always a mixture of the two.
Thanks,
Dave
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Originally Posted by j.kenzie@sbcglobal.net
Amazing work , Carl. Are you happy, or frustrated? When I am working on a project, it's always a mixture of the two.
Thanks,
Dave
About 95% happy, 5% frustration
Happy that I learned to be patient, frustrated that I have to be patient
But a great learning experience.

Cheers!
Carl


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