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Old 01-06-2018, 12:32 PM
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Tuomo,

What is happening with your monster motor at the moment?

Apologies if I have missed anything
Old 01-06-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by simos
Tuomo, have you seen this Mazda VRIS study, perhaps nothing new for you but good write up.
http://web.archive.org/web/200312062...vwxyz_vris.htm
I think that this writeup is a little confused about the Mazda V6. The original SAE paper explains things a lot better.

In any case, the Mazda V6 intake is similar to many Porsche intakes that have a resonance flappy, including the 928 S4 intake. There are two modes, and they tune to different frequencies.

My plan is to fine tune the turbine A/R choice and the intake manifold resonance point such that the intake flappy-closed torque peak happens at the rpm where the turbine is just about to spool such that the knock limit is reached at the lowest rpm possible without sacrificing the high-rpm exhaust manifold back pressure. At high rpms, the flappy can be left open because the resonance effects are minor and because the throttle body flow resistance imbalance is mitigated by there being net air mass flow from one plenum to another thru the resonance flappy pipe.
Old 01-06-2018, 02:26 PM
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I used to have a car with that engine - very smooth power delivery and a great sound, FWIW...

Speaking of Porsche + Mazda V6, Porsche designed the original Ford Duratec V6 for possible use in the Boxster, then sold the design rights to Ford who tweaked it a little for mass manufacture.
Old 01-06-2018, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FredR
Tuomo,

What is happening with your monster motor at the moment?

Apologies if I have missed anything
Final adjustments and assembly:


Old 01-07-2018, 09:37 AM
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Default Bumper adjustment

There is now enough clearance between the rear bumper and the tailpipe such that the bumper doesn’t melt during the first couple hundred dyno pulls:


Old 01-08-2018, 08:03 AM
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Damn that is beautiful Tuomo!!!! Kudos to you and Mr. Kuhn.
Old 01-20-2018, 12:37 PM
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Test pipes welded and a cheap thermal imaging system purchased:

Purely by coincidence, the "test pipes" that replace cats and work as exhaust blowndown supersonic shock wave traps happened to be exactly the right length for the spot. Better be lucky than good! Stainless steel, robot welded in Taiwan:



Then there's the question of heat shield design. We're planning to do the simplest thing, which is to drive the car hard and thermally image the engine and pipes from the top and bottom right after that. This should tell us if any sensitive components are getting any heat. Special attention will be paid on the valve cover gaskets, oil pan gasket, scavenge oil pump, and the starter motor. Below I used the system to turn my oldest into a ghost:




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Originally Posted by V2Rocket
I used to have a car with that engine - very smooth power delivery and a great sound, FWIW...

Speaking of Porsche + Mazda V6, Porsche designed the original Ford Duratec V6 for possible use in the Boxster, then sold the design rights to Ford who tweaked it a little for mass manufacture.
Yup, I had a Ford Countour with it and a 5-speed, it was quick would have done well in the Boxter.
Old 01-20-2018, 11:07 PM
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Cant believe this has been going on since 2010......
Old 01-20-2018, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by andy-gts
Cant believe this has been going on since 2010......
Its a science project. I drove it for a while, but more is never enough...
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Default John’s about ready with the exhaust

Here’s the exhaust. While John Kuhn is putting the finishing touches on the exhaust, Im helping Olivia guard the basket against Orlando Magic:






Old 02-03-2018, 09:08 PM
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Given the mention of the Mazda K series engine, and the twin turbo theme I thought I might just throw this in the mix. This is what I've been doing lately, it is the back end of a 1988 F1 car mated to a Mazda KL and a tube frame chassis at the front. For use at my local hillclimb track.
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The tip is now polished and all the pipe section dimensions recorded such that John can make more of these exhaust if people need the flow capacity and like the sound.



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what are the details of the rear muffler? Dual 3 in and 3.5 out? I need to redo the back of my exhaust to fit around the z06 trans so I may as well add a muffler. I have dual Borla XR1 Race mufflers and it's a tad bit loud.
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Originally Posted by 928sg
what are the details of the rear muffler? Dual 3 in and 3.5 out? I need to redo the back of my exhaust to fit around the z06 trans so I may as well add a muffler. I have dual Borla XR1 Race mufflers and it's a tad bit loud.
Dual 3.5” in and single 4.5” out. Could be easily made dual 3” in and single 3.5" or single 4" out.

In terms of sound, the theory is that the infinity pipe and single out will help a lot. In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, we’ll see soon.

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