Carl Fausett

Here is a picture of the JB weld applied to the inside sealing surface of the two provided on the oil pan.

Carl Fausett

...and a couple pics from the installation guide for this product.

borland

Why are the bore holes so large? They appear to be much larger in diameter than the studs. Is that for a sleeve that limits compression of the cork gasket?

KenRudd

I'm just jealous he can pull the motor out and flip it over and work un-obstructed. Pulling the oil pan while laying under the car is near the top of my list of "don't want to do again.."

and that his motor is spotless...

IcemanG17

we also had to "groove" the oil pan and grind down the mini starter to make it fit on the lemons racer and the widow...

Carl Fausett

Yes, thats a tough fit back there by the starter. For a monet there, I tought we'd be asking the buyers to grind a bit off their oil pan as well, but I really wanted to avoid having to say that. In the final design, I did get it done with no mods to the pan and no grinding to the starter.

They are not that much larger than the studs, although the picture seems to magnify it. They do have a little play in each hole so we do not interfere with the fit between the engine and the pan by having any side-loads on the studs.
Keep in mind the spacer does not have to be tight up against the stud. There is no benefit in that.

mark kibort

If I had pan spacer, i wouldnt have a pan. (car is too low for this kind of mod)

mark kibort

Misinterpretation? maybe you need to crack open a book and have someone explain the basics for you sometime. what I have interpreted is nothing more than 1st year physics, probably highschool level. remember, acceleration=Power/(mass x velocity) . "You find two cars at any speed producing the same HP , regardless of engine torque, they will accelerate at exactly the same rate all other things being equal" . You mean that world-wide, highly controversial sentence?

people always mock what they dont understand, so no surprise there.

Thanks Charley. I have to own up to the missing fraction or variable . usually they are highly overated.

Like you are right and easy to deal with? do you remember the cometic gasket tab discussion of my stroker?? (as well as many other topics like the ones regarding head install for surface preparation, sealant usage, etc) ) You have to take a step back and thing a little harder sometimes.

Now, back to the who-Invented the pan spacer discussion.

By the way, do we really have a windage problem? Anyone have a borascope / window in the crankcase, video of the crank at speed, to verify the theory?

I should add, my prefence to amsoil and subscribing to the theory that I have a bunch of oil flinging around my engine bottom end that might help longevity, is only a theory proven only by the life and performance of my engines over the past 15 years (and lack of funds to try anything new)

borland

I wonder why Carl doesn't make motor mount/engine block spacers too.

Mrmerlin

Carl instead of gluing the spacer to the pan with JB weld I would suggest that you use Hondabond, semi permeable sealing compound, if the pan gets damaged then the spacer can be removed easily, the JB weld may be more permanent .
Jb weld may also wind up sealing the studs to the pan.
When its fitted wet.
Plus if any JB weld cracks off into the pan it may get sucked into the oil pump.
I would also suggest to use a silicone pan gasket, it is a better design

mark kibort

thats what I was thinking too. But, i wonder if there are thngs that the header will be closer to, that might be a heat issue. I was just looking under mine today. .5" would put the pan below the swaybar, which itself, has some nasty hits. (but in the 10+ years of racing, no damage, just scrapes)

Carl Fausett

Sure. Hondabond or Yamabond would also do a good job.

...only depending on the application. As I posted earlier, the silicone gasket is too pliable and has to wide of a cross-section for boosted applications under extreme use (racing).

NA motors in street driving or DE days? Sure, the silicone gasket is a good choice. We sell it.

dr bob

Mark--

Add skid rails with replaceable HDHMWLPE strips on it. It's what the big guys do when they adjust the car too low.

Vlocity

Carl,

Great looking product and even better availability and execution.

Best regards,

Ken

soontobered84

My '88 has this very issue from the PO. I'm really not looking forward to removing this pan.