Norcal Lemons survives 1st track day!! RACE REPORT
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If you look at the times, you can see the guys that probably won, were using our same strategy. go 80% on saturday ( 2:23ish) and then on sunday , run a little harder (2:19s) they had a BmW e30,which are great cheap fast cars too, and we had the 928. with no penalties, and no blown rod bearings, we could (would) have been a contender. hmmm, where have I heard that line before?? ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
by the way, our team name is Members Only and the car number is 928
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by the way, our team name is Members Only and the car number is 928
#123
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Wow, thats really funny, and more reasons to keep that number. But, no, I wasnt that creative. it was just dumb luck. It was the only number that was available in my first WCGT race.
cool!
mk
cool!
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there was a little rx7 with a turbo (we think) that had run 2:12, but I ran against him on my outlap, and he didnt seem that fast. The funny thing was when you saw some of these cars in the race, you had know idea if it was the same driver in it the last time you saw it.
On pure street tires, those times are probably a full 4-6 second slower than running on a DOT race tire.
cracks me up that these cars are arguably, $500 machines! very funny!
The only car that passed me on the second session was the batmobile. its time was pretty close to ours and that pass was in some pretty thick traffic. Remember when you were younger and dumber and were racing cars on the freeways? you know, trying to get ahead of the "otherguy" without really scaring others too much? and then you would drive by the guy when another car inadvertantly set a "pick" for you? Thats what this was like. It wasnt so much about real racing , speed, handling and HP, it was about running through traffic and getting breaks (as far as one-on-one racing) now, if you got distracted and passed a gaggle of cars under yellow, you would lose about 10 laps in penalties when you got pulled in. so, it really was about having fun, passing cars, but MOST importantly, keeping your head about caution flags. If you had a really slow car and didnt get one penalty, you would easily get in the top 10.
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cracks me up that these cars are arguably, $500 machines! very funny!
The only car that passed me on the second session was the batmobile. its time was pretty close to ours and that pass was in some pretty thick traffic. Remember when you were younger and dumber and were racing cars on the freeways? you know, trying to get ahead of the "otherguy" without really scaring others too much? and then you would drive by the guy when another car inadvertantly set a "pick" for you? Thats what this was like. It wasnt so much about real racing , speed, handling and HP, it was about running through traffic and getting breaks (as far as one-on-one racing) now, if you got distracted and passed a gaggle of cars under yellow, you would lose about 10 laps in penalties when you got pulled in. so, it really was about having fun, passing cars, but MOST importantly, keeping your head about caution flags. If you had a really slow car and didnt get one penalty, you would easily get in the top 10.
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I also don't think that RX7 with a 2:12 was right either & neither did the team...thats a 2:30 car...
the FTD was a 5 speed Ford Crown Vic with a 5 speed...the one that was crushed last year...it got a low 2:15 in the race......so our 928 STILL holds the unofficial lemons thunderhill lap record at 2:14.07 during testing.....
Hopefully we can pull the engine this weekend and see how bad the damage is....but no matter what we will rebuild "her" and be at the Infineon race in March...it WILL happen... just sell off some old parts to gain $$$ back...install a new bottom end....& were back.....
To clarify the rules....after a lemons race car completes a race you can email the "head perpetrator" Jay Lamm with pictures and plead your case about how destroyed and worthless your car is...then he assigns a value of somewhere between 0 and $499 to use for the next race....
the FTD was a 5 speed Ford Crown Vic with a 5 speed...the one that was crushed last year...it got a low 2:15 in the race......so our 928 STILL holds the unofficial lemons thunderhill lap record at 2:14.07 during testing.....
Hopefully we can pull the engine this weekend and see how bad the damage is....but no matter what we will rebuild "her" and be at the Infineon race in March...it WILL happen... just sell off some old parts to gain $$$ back...install a new bottom end....& were back.....
To clarify the rules....after a lemons race car completes a race you can email the "head perpetrator" Jay Lamm with pictures and plead your case about how destroyed and worthless your car is...then he assigns a value of somewhere between 0 and $499 to use for the next race....
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Funny, but I just watched my rear cam video. that 555 car was on the main straight and let me cut him off to turn 1 and then I gapped him. Either it was a different driver, but probably not, because I think I lapped that car in my stint too and that time was during my 2 hours on the track.
I was watching the front view video and I was being pretty easy on her. toward the end, for my only semi clean lap (only about 2 passes) I ran that 2:19.7 . Its pretty funny, it felt so much faster than the stockish, RX7 on DOTs, I ran in the last SCCA race, but 3 seconds slower. strange. yes, the crown vic was fast, we were keeping up with it, and it was fun to watch. the Dukes of Hazard car was fun to run with too. I have some footage of it on my video . I was usually laughing pretty hard through out the race, when I wasnt choking on the smell of burning oil.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I was watching the front view video and I was being pretty easy on her. toward the end, for my only semi clean lap (only about 2 passes) I ran that 2:19.7 . Its pretty funny, it felt so much faster than the stockish, RX7 on DOTs, I ran in the last SCCA race, but 3 seconds slower. strange. yes, the crown vic was fast, we were keeping up with it, and it was fun to watch. the Dukes of Hazard car was fun to run with too. I have some footage of it on my video . I was usually laughing pretty hard through out the race, when I wasnt choking on the smell of burning oil.
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I also don't think that RX7 with a 2:12 was right either & neither did the team...thats a 2:30 car...
the FTD was a 5 speed Ford Crown Vic with a 5 speed...the one that was crushed last year...it got a low 2:15 in the race......so our 928 STILL holds the unofficial lemons thunderhill lap record at 2:14.07 during testing.....
Hopefully we can pull the engine this weekend and see how bad the damage is....but no matter what we will rebuild "her" and be at the Infineon race in March...it WILL happen... just sell off some old parts to gain $$$ back...install a new bottom end....& were back.....
To clarify the rules....after a lemons race car completes a race you can email the "head perpetrator" Jay Lamm with pictures and plead your case about how destroyed and worthless your car is...then he assigns a value of somewhere between 0 and $499 to use for the next race....
the FTD was a 5 speed Ford Crown Vic with a 5 speed...the one that was crushed last year...it got a low 2:15 in the race......so our 928 STILL holds the unofficial lemons thunderhill lap record at 2:14.07 during testing.....
Hopefully we can pull the engine this weekend and see how bad the damage is....but no matter what we will rebuild "her" and be at the Infineon race in March...it WILL happen... just sell off some old parts to gain $$$ back...install a new bottom end....& were back.....
To clarify the rules....after a lemons race car completes a race you can email the "head perpetrator" Jay Lamm with pictures and plead your case about how destroyed and worthless your car is...then he assigns a value of somewhere between 0 and $499 to use for the next race....
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I just compared one of my video laps to your You tube lap. the lugging of the engine was 5 seconds slower to turn 8 after that pretty even. after 10, almost dead on even to the start/finish with side by side video, so it wasnt down on power, but the low rpms and traffic killed the time. I guess a 190rwhp 928 on street tires is still a momentium car.
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Of course.......we are always looking for "funded" drivers......which really isn't much once the car is "built", which in theory ours is......
I don't like running more than 4 drivers to assure everyone plenty of seat time...but a typical 3 day (with testing) lemons weekend will run around $7-800 or so for each driver (around $3k total)...ours was far higher due to the build cost and safety equipment....but still fairly cheap for 20+ hours of tracktime....
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Brian and team
Great job and congrats. I am sorry to have missed this but I had a Auto-X at Sears Point on saturday. I WILL be out there in March to help/pit/cheer. This sounds like a hell of a lot of fun.
Great job and congrats. I am sorry to have missed this but I had a Auto-X at Sears Point on saturday. I WILL be out there in March to help/pit/cheer. This sounds like a hell of a lot of fun.
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Great...we can always use an extra hand in the pit....which consisted of wiping up oil from everywhere this time...hopefully less messy next time....
Anders
Your missing the point....this is LEMONS...normal racing rules need not apply....how many other race series would allow an old 5.0 mustang that blew a CLOUD of smoke in EVERY left turn (rights were fine)....so thick you couldn't see through it....& they FINISHED the race like that......