atb

Holy crap Brian, that's curing the 2/6 issue, oil ingestion issues, and adding a few hundred HP in a BIG way.

I think Mark Anderson had the front TT bearing migrate backward in the tube causing some issues, maybe the same is happening on the widow.

Great video. Now that you have your punchlist from the shakedown cruise, its time make her 100% and get her back on the track. Look Good!

IcemanG17

The owner of that 928 built it as an ORR machine....he used the Beast as a guide, minus the stroker....he chose the LS7 since it was cheaper than a stroker...but here is the engine he installed

http://www.turnkeyenginesupply.com/E...1&key=packages

But I think Renegade does offer a discount of about 20%.....

I also REALLY liked his ATL 26 gallon fuel cell.....routed to the stock fuel filler...very clean installation.... The Racepak IQ3 dash-datalogger is also super cool...heres some pics...

On the widow....I figure the worst case scenario is the clutch is a goner or the TT....but I can live with either of those....

mark kibort

that cage doesnt look very good though!

mark kibort

yeah, something REALLY let go . I was listening, as it started before you put on the title line that something was wrong at "turn 11". a very high pitched rattle. what a racket. too bad you didnt do the test in neutral with the clutch in and reving the engine, stopped. Then, turn the engine off and coast in neutral too. (to illiminate the torque tube or transmission)[But, whatever the failure, im sure by that racket, it will be easy to find. since it seemed to only manifest itself under off throttle decels,, im thinkng that its probably something in the clutch coming apart. maybe a torque tube bearing came apart? short shaft sleave came off (thoes 2 little 10mm bolts came off the sleeve and it has no stabiltiy there. could it have been mounted on the wrong side of the bell housing?

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SharkSkin

I'm thinking one of the pinch bolts on the forward sleeve or one of the 6 pp bolts came loose. Hope it's not too serious!

mark kibort

I dont think those clutch bolts can come loose. If they do, you would lose drive. I think its something around the short shaft mounting sleeve bolts too. It almost sounded like there was a bolt being bounced around like in a popcorn machine.

cant wait to hear of the problem!

Brian! Whats the word!!???

mk

IcemanG17

Still no word.....shop is busy with another car & should get to it tomorrow....

The more I think about it, its distinctly possible that we under torqued one of the two bolts that hold the short shaft to the TT.... I would say I'm 80% sure thats what it is...... mostly since the car drove fine, and the clutch wasn't slipping & the engine sounded fine.......my other 20% is a really mangled front TT bearing holder...which also is possible and it did make some odd noises before....listen to this video, which is the last time I had the widow on track...right as I'm pulling up inbetween the GT2 and Ferrari it sounds like classic dying TT of a rattling coffee can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386X2Wehh5I

It starts at about 15 seconds and ends at 20 seconds...so that could be related

SharkSkin

Mark, you can lose three of them and still drive the car if the other three are tight. Not that I would recommend it, just saying that one of any set of bolts can come out while the others remain tight.

mark kibort

thats true, I agree, but the way things were rattling around down there, I dont know. You would think a bolt would just come out and rest at the bottom of the bell housing, but maybe as it was backing out, it started making contact with the sides of the bell housing. that little sleave has my vote. piture it with those 10mm screws missing. I bet that sleave would start to spin wtih the shaft, vibrate all over the place, and have some bearing type noise due to the shaft,unsupported would be spinning inside of it.

We will see!

mk

Bill Ball

The PP bolts were torqued - all 9 of them. The guide tube bolts were tight. The TT coupler is my concern too. I meant to get a torque wrench on it, but I think that got overlooked. I snugged them pretty good, but did not torque them. The only other concern was the way the release bearing circlip seated. But as the clutch seemed OK, I'm going for the coupler. The problem is if that gets loose, it usually chews up the TT splines, meaning new TT needed. Argh! Hoping it's something less problematic to fix.

IcemanG17

Bill
I also hope for an easy inexpensive fix...but of course I've learned that is rarely the case with the WIDOW....

But even if I need a new TT....and clamp....I'll still fix it....since its a good idea to replace the TT anyway....

SharkSkin

Ah, I see you mean the guide tube, which is held on with 2 6mm screws. It doesn't support the shaft at all, rather it supports the TO bearing. IMHO the clutch pedal would have felt a bit different with that tube missing, but I see your point that it could make noise if loose. There's not much of anything for it to catch on though, to make such a loud noise.

My vote is the rear pinch bolt on the collar that connects the stub shaft to the drive shaft. If it were the forward bolt it would fall all the way out, the rear bolt can come partway out and clang against the inspection hole on every revolution.

SharkSkin

Bill, did you add some?

Bill Ball

No, it has 9.

Bill Ball

Could be. AFAIK, the rear was not touched recently.