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Old 12-05-2008, 01:41 AM
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the quarter window trim can be removed. many 928's trim has been removed, but as to why is anybody's guess. Porsche put the trim there for a reason. as to it being absolutely necessary? probably not, but it's there.

most of us prefer to have it where it belongs........





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Old 12-05-2008, 01:42 AM
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side note: found this rear mount turbo for the 928
http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...ar%20Turbo.htm
Old 12-05-2008, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by largecar379
the quarter window trim can be removed. many 928's trim has been removed, but as to why is anybody's guess. Porsche put the trim there for a reason. as to it being absolutely necessary? probably not, but it's there.

most of us prefer to have it where it belongs........





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it just looks bad when it's silver, like a form model t, lol
Old 12-05-2008, 01:46 AM
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yeah do your homework skippy, most your questions can be quickly answered by going to the vendors websites and seeing what parts are specific to particular model years or which ones fit all 928s. use the search function, see what works and whats available, and then ask some more edumacated questions, which peeps around here are generally more than happy to answer. its the stuff that screams 'i havent' bothered to look myself 1st or do my homework' that gets the apathetic responses... other than that, could be a rewarding project for you or your worst nightmare, depends on a lot of factors, who knows?
Old 12-05-2008, 01:48 AM
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actually now i see your last few post you are looking around some so youre on the right track, good luck
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hatch. Is that you?
Old 12-05-2008, 02:13 AM
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i'm also noticing the line accross the bottom of the car is different and seems not possible to make (uprade) in the early cars




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Originally Posted by The_Remora
actually now i see your last few post you are looking around some so youre on the right track, good luck
gee thanks glad i have your permission
Old 12-05-2008, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 944J
gee thanks glad i have your permission
no prob
Old 12-05-2008, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 944J
i'm wondering what parts are interchangeable between all 928 models, for upgrades and for preference choices?

i wonder if you can make a 1981 look like the rear of this car:



i see it has

1) strosek hatch
2) gt rear bumper shell (does this fit on a 1981 928?)
3) no silver trim around the rear windows (can i remove it off a 928 rear)
1) Hatch is easy, it will probably cost more than the car.
2) Bumper shell is basically an S4 shell with a GT sticker on it(which is to say, it's a GT shell... no wait...) Anyway it will fit if you cut either the bumper or the 1/4 panel to fit. Figure $250 minimum for the taillights. Probably more for the spoiler, if that's giving you a hardon.
3) That trim is required. You can get some used trim that still has the black finish on it, buy new, or leave whatever is there -- but it's an essential part of the window seal design.

Originally Posted by 944J
the important thing for me is

1) how the car looks (inside/outside) and what i can easily do (easy means minor body work, some cutting is ok, basically mounting new bumper shells and mirrors and stripping down the interior or using some SEM texture adhesive)

2) how it performs (you can always get aftermarket or custom upgrades [suspension, brakes, engine] that far out perform the 1995 best model 928 so its not much use to use that as the gold standard)

i guess i'm more into restoring and modifying and customizing cars than true pure cars, its just more fun...
None of the stuff on that yellow car has anything to do with performance -- other than maybe accelerating $ from your wallet. Alright, except for the wheels. You want to sell the car for $2500? you'd be into it for more than that buying the hatch, wing, bumper, taillights, etc. IMHO. Oh, plus $1300 for the car.

If body work is easy for you, then some of this car's problems may not be an issue. The stuff that you can't do easily or cheaply, make sure that is in good shape.

There were 4 levels of brakes, OB, S, S4, and GTS. In order of performance and price. If you want to track it, maybe some later A-arms can give you that extra bit of camber that you want. You can throw a $6K blower on any shark and make 300+RWHP.

Personally, I think it's a mistake to think about performance swaps on any 928 until you have done the basics. TB(at least check -- not too critical on an 81)brakes, tires, steering, leaks(oil, vac,etc.) and ignition. Except for maybe a couple bucks in vac hoses, none of the $ you spend here will be wasted if you choose to upgrade things, with the possible exception of tires & brakes.

Originally Posted by 944J
thanks russ

the car i looked at definitely has some extra 'trim' around the back windows that is chrome that IS NOT on the below shown 928, im 85% sure i'm not mistaken and that is would never be colored black, its not even on the windows, its around the windows, seems to serve no purpose.

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im looking for some more pics online that have the trim im talking about...
My site has a ton of pics of my car with trim that has lost the black finish. Link in sig.

Originally Posted by 944J
ok this shows the trim, now i see what russ is talking about... so this trim can be removed with no problem, is it common that people remove it for improved looks?

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Are you talking about the rear wing? That was actually added to reduce drag. It works. If you care about performance, why remove it? You want to put the bigger wing on?

Originally Posted by 944J
i'm also noticing the line accross the bottom of the car is different and seems not possible to make (uprade) in the early cars
Notice also the different bumper/sheetmetal interface front and rear. Also the front spoiler and brake ducting is different. Oops, the blue car doesn't have any brake ducting. Differences, functional DIFFERENCES.
Old 12-05-2008, 05:51 AM
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You seem interested in MY changes.. here's a summary of most (not all) of the bigger or more visible changes. Lots of smaller ones too - various tech bulletins from Porsche on the Jim Morehouse CD pack can fill you in on the other stuff.

http://www.landsharkoz.com/evolution.htm

Note the site linked is the aussie 928 site - so the info there concerns what you'd call a "Euro" - i.e. non US spec... however most of the changes referred to are relevant.
Old 12-05-2008, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 944J
ha ha, so what does a porsche mechanic do when you take your early 928 into them and it needs a new power steering rack and internal bushings?

i dont think an entire car has too many parts to list, thats just more snobbery like they say a 944 turbo is so great over a 944na which is total BS. put a $1200 homemade supercharger on a 944na and it will out perform a stock 944 turbo around a short track/autox.
I can look up the invoice cost if you want, cause I have been paying my mechanic to do lots of the big tasks ...

Frame straightening, new (NOS) arms, new steel lowers, new rack, new tie rods, install bilsteins with S4 sport springs, gear box rebuild, gear box replace, second gear box replace and upgrade, new clutch and im-plate, 993 TT rotors front and back, install S4 Big Reds, 4 different steering columns (related to frame straighten), replace/install NOS distributor, replace all bosch injector connectors/clean all injectors, the list is longer but I don't want to scare you.

There are two types of 928 owners, those who pay others to do the work and those who do the work themselves, and the third is when the former becomes the latter
Old 12-05-2008, 11:07 AM
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My rear window trim was all faded on my 81. One of the 2 previous owners had painted it with a brush. I masked everything off, sanded it down to almost the metal. I'm pretty sure it was aluminum and not black from the factory. I put on 2-3 coats of paint then 2 coats of clear. A light sanding, polish and wax it looks great.

Personally I don't think your should buy the car. If you are going to nit pick every little detail starting with window trim, then an '81 is not going to be for you. The car is an OB why mess with it to make it something it isn't? Save up and spend a few extra bucks to get an s4 and start with that, rather then trying to morph your car into something it's not.
Old 12-05-2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
If you want a 5 speed just glue a 5 speed sticker onto the shifter, dont worry you dont need a clutch just pretend you have paddle shifters
You forgot you have to make motor boat sounds when "Stealth" shifting.
Old 12-05-2008, 03:19 PM
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Just get an old Fiero and with some homemade body work you can make it look like a Strosek GTS and save all the extra hassle of figuring out 928s


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