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Old 03-13-2010, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Latest info I have is that KS842484 is last '89 MY ROW VIN. Is KS842487 really correct data?
Erkka, you can use the VIN search in PET 7.1 to establish the highest/lowest VIN's for each model year and country. It also returns option codes.

Its a single VIN at a time - but shouldn't be too hard to use a http sniffer proxy to work out the request format (it uses http POST) and pull the entire set of 928 VIN data into a database.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:08 AM
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Quess what I'm doing at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Latest info I have is that KS842484 is last '89 MY ROW VIN. Is KS842487 really correct data?
WP0ZZZ92ZKS842487 is still listed for sale by the "Porsche Zentrum 5 Seen" on the Porsche used car locator.

It seems to be a nice 1989 GT.
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:32 PM
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So it seem but maybe Fzg.-Nummer: 42487 isn't actual VIN. Or is complete VIN listed somewhere?
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Originally Posted by JWise
Any news to report in the search for the elusive '88 US Club Sports?
Options for US CS and VIN's etc for all '89 ROW CS are now known. But there still isn't any new info on where those cars are. Carfax do not have anything on either US CS VIN. This is strange as normal '88 S4 are very well covered by Carfax and almost all of them have multible records. This makes me think two CS are not in US or at least have not been on the road since they were new.

In any case there is a lot of new info available like how many ROW GT's and manual GTS were made. How many cars with LSD and/or sunroof etc. Below is little scratch on the surface. '89-95 production data split to 5sp vs automatic and LHD vs RHD vs US models. '89 US split between 5sp vs automatics and earlier MY info back to '81 will follow later.

It seems at least in ROW markets '89 GT and 5sp S4 were sold side by side during spring 1989 as after first ROW GT were made over 100 5sp S4 were done and last 5sp VIN is very close to end of MY production. In any case number of ROW GT's is now known, 1682 cars meaning total worldwide GT production is 2078. ROW 5sp GTS numbers are 431 LHD and 51 RHD made and total GTS numbers are 649 5sp and 2255 automatics.

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MY   Model       Market   Steering  Qty  Total
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89   S4 aut      ROW      LHD      1260
     S4 aut      ROW      RHD       444   1704
     S4 5sp      ROW      LHD       377
     S4 5sp      ROW      RHD        18    395
     S4 aut/5sp  US+CAN   LHD      1081         3180

     CS 5sp      ROW      LHD         7            7           7

     GT 5sp      ROW      LHD       289
     GT 5sp      ROW      RHD        69    358
     GT 5sp      US+CAN   LHD       109          467  3654

90   S4 aut      ROW      LHD      1308
     S4 aut      ROW      RHD       473   1781
     S4 aut      US+CAN   LHD       315         2096

     GT 5sp      ROW      LHD       653
     GT 5sp      ROW      RHD       155    808
     GT 5sp      US+CAN   LHD       142          950  3046

91   S4 aut      ROW      LHD       927
     S4 aut      ROW      RHD       207   1134
     S4 aut      US+CAN   LHD       242         1376        6652

     GT 5sp      ROW      LHD       470
     GT 5sp      ROW      RHD        46    516
     GT 5sp      US+CAN   LHD       145          661  2037  2078  8737

92   GTS aut     ROW      LHD       660
     GTS aut     ROW      RHD        73    733

     GTS 5sp     ROW      LHD       210
     GTS 5sp     ROW      RHD        12    222   955

93   GTS aut     ROW      LHD       404
     GTS aut     ROW      RHD        87    491  
93.E GTS aut     US+CAN   LHD        42          
93.L GTS aut     US+CAN   LHD        55     97   588

93   GTS 5sp     ROW      LHD       116
     GTS 5sp     ROW      RHD        14    130
93.E GTS 5sp     US+CAN   LHD        46          
93.L GTS 5sp     US+CAN   LHD        47     93   223   811

94   GTS aut     ROW      LHD       346
     GTS aut     ROW      RHD       101    447
94.E GTS aut     US+CAN   LHD        14
94.L GTS aut     US+CAN   LHD        81     95   542

94   GTS 5sp     ROW      LHD        58
     GTS 5sp     ROW      RHD        18     76
94.E GTS 5sp     US+CAN   LHD         5
94.L GTS 5sp     US+CAN   LHD        39     44   120   662

95   GTS aut     ROW      LHD       278
     GTS aut     ROW      RHD        67    345
     GTS aut     US+CAN   LHD        47          392        2255

     GTS 5sp     ROW      LHD        47
     GTS 5sp     ROW      RHD         7     54
     GTS 5sp     US+CAN   LHD        30           84   476   649  2904
These are just quickly put together so there can be mistakes. Data is now available and many more statistics can be made. Though sadly no paint and interior code info.
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I found a 1984 928S with VIN WPOJB0921ES860164. Notice the lowercase hyphen is missing or absent if compared to the original list made by Vilhuer.

Regarding the letter E, option # M718 is not listed in the codes (from the FAQ), what is it?

Lastly, does anyone have a DVD or CDs of the maintenance files? Jim doesn't have any at the moment. (Shipping is possible to either USA or Canada.)
Thanks from Canada!
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Originally Posted by 924Porsche81
I found a 1984 928S with VIN WPOJB0921ES860164. Notice the lowercase hyphen is missing or absent if compared to the original list made by Vilhuer.

Regarding the letter E, option # M718 is not listed in the codes (from the FAQ), what is it?

Lastly, does anyone have a DVD or CDs of the maintenance files? Jim doesn't have any at the moment. (Shipping is possible to either USA or Canada.)
Thanks from Canada!
The hyphen just indicates the position of the check-digit. The actual character that appears in that place in a North America VIN will vary and is calculatable by the other digits in the VIN. Its used to verify the VIN is a correctly-formed one (similar to credit card number verification, or ISBN check digits).

I think the option code is actually 218 - the options listed for the VIN you quoted don't include a 718 code. Here are the options for that car:

113 Version for Canada
158 Radio "Monterey" - 86 "Reno" - 87
185 Automatic 2 point rear seat belts
190 Increased side door strength
218 License brakets front and rear
409 Sport seats left and right leather
418 Protective side mouldings
464 Without compressor and tire pressure gauge
468 Graduated tint windshield, green side glass
481 5 speed manual transmission
494 2 speakers on back shelf
494 Amplifier system
533 Alarm system
576 Without rear fog light
642 Additive for cooling water
650 Sunroof
912 Vehicle without identification plate
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Much obliged, Hilton. If you would like to see the actual posting, please PM me. It's in French!
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Originally Posted by 924Porsche81
I found a 1984 928S with VIN WPOJB0921ES860164.
Minor correction, the letter O isn't used in a vin, so actual vin is WP0JB0921ES860164.
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I think your VIN pulls might be getting more info than the options on the production sticker in the back, or are they consistent? Wondering about..
WP0JB0928GS862223 and WP0ZZZ92ZDS840568

Have the build decal for the first and the COA for the second for comparison.
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Originally Posted by SMTCapeCod
I think your VIN pulls might be getting more info than the options on the production sticker in the back, or are they consistent? Wondering about..
WP0JB0928GS862223 and WP0ZZZ92ZDS840568

Have the build decal for the first and the COA for the second for comparison.
This is what I get ...

First is C02 (US) MY 1986
M28.44 Engine & A28.07 Trans
Option codes ... I158 M220 M319 M418 M490 M494 M533 M570 M650

Second is C11 (Austria) MY 1983
M28.11 Engine & G28.07 Trans
Option Codes ... M058 M220 M261 I323 I395 M474 I475 M489
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Originally Posted by Dave928S
This is what I get ...

First is C02 (US) MY 1986
M28.44 Engine & A28.07 Trans
Option codes ... I158 M220 M319 M418 M490 M494 M533 M570 M650

Second is C11 (Austria) MY 1983
M28.11 Engine & G28.07 Trans
Option Codes ... M058 M220 M261 I323 I395 M474 I475 M489

So that's from PET? I"ll have to go back and read recent posts.
Yes, they do deviate from build sticker and COA. THe build sticker for the first adds M494 and omits M650.

I'll have to key out the second one and ping back in if it is of interest.
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And I still wish I could get some certainty on the Austria Spec..best guesses have been that it is an emissions configuration, a license plate (mounting) thing, or perhaps something with the text on the dash alerts.
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I had to go here: http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site/Por...odes_List.html to find I323.

The COA didn't list non asbestos brakes, german language instruments or the sticker.

Thank you for the insights!
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Originally Posted by SMTCapeCod
So that's from PET? I"ll have to go back and read recent posts.
Yes, they do deviate from build sticker and COA. THe build sticker for the first adds M494 and omits M650.

I'll have to key out the second one and ping back in if it is of interest.
I'm getting the information from lots of VIN info from many sources that I've accumulated, together with PET. What does it have ... M494 or M650 or both?

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And I still wish I could get some certainty on the Austria Spec..best guesses have been that it is an emissions configuration, a license plate (mounting) thing, or perhaps something with the text on the dash alerts.
My 82 lists Singapore as the country code, and yet it's verified as Australian delivered from a Porsche dealer here in Oz, with appropriate compliance plates. My guess is that mine had been destined for that market, then they got an order for a manual, and had that one ready to go ... and the customer was happy with that car and its options. Maybe yours is a similar story.

Originally Posted by SMTCapeCod
I had to go here: http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site/Por...odes_List.html to find I323.

The COA didn't list non asbestos brakes, german language instruments or the sticker.

Thank you for the insights!
That's a good site .. I've bookmarked.
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