Master VIN thread
11-28-2007, 04:09 PM
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Master VIN thread
This has been long time coming. 
Been meaning to make compilation message containing all 928 VIN sequences in order to find out how accurare info I have so far. Data is based on several sources, mainly Tech spec books, Jörg Austen's book and Carfax database. Aim is to make this list as complete as possible and to use it to calculate as accurately as possible total number of 928's made in each MY for all markets.
None of the numbers are absolutely certainly correct. If anyone has VIN which is not in range please let me know. Same thing with knowledge of smaller limits. All missing or too larger numbers will affect both MY specific and total count of cars made. I expect total to be very close to 61056 mentioned elsewhere. Getting afully close already.
Few earlier threads related to VIN's and number of 928's made:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/311463-looking-up-all-the-928-by-vin.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/367219-number-of-row-and-japanise-cars-in-us-and-canada.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/130727-production-numbers.html
GT's made for different markets and first + last VIN for each of them.
Edit: Fixed typo in '90 MY two Canadian cars VIN.
Edit: Samuel's '87 and '88 upper limits added
Edit: '88 ROW S4 upper limit raised again
Edit: Mistake fixed in '80 MY ROW 4.5L upper limit, it is obviously 001192 instead of 101192
Edit: VIN range upper end checked for ROW and Japanise '81-95 MY models. New cars into '85 Japanise set, '87-88 and '94 ROW sets. 4 cars removed from '89 MY ROW set upper limit. I believe upper end of ranges are now correct or at least very close to it. There might still be some prototypes hiding below normal smallest VIN for some MY's.
Edit: LHD/RHD and 5sp/aut split added. Info is not available for '78-79 MY's but its fairly safe to say more than 50% of them were 5sp. Except maybe '79 MY RHD cars where slightly above 50% might have automatic gearbox.
Edit: Jörg Austen book info about 1585 being first ROW '89 MY GT is wrong. 1585 is S4. 1332 is first GT.
Edit: '78 MY 1st VIN for each set changed to 0011 and 9511. These are believed to be first "production" cars made with normal VINs.
Edit: GT split between different markets added.
Been meaning to make compilation message containing all 928 VIN sequences in order to find out how accurare info I have so far. Data is based on several sources, mainly Tech spec books, Jörg Austen's book and Carfax database. Aim is to make this list as complete as possible and to use it to calculate as accurately as possible total number of 928's made in each MY for all markets.Code:
MY Model Market Smallest VIN Largest VIN Qty Total
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78 928 ROW 9288100011 - 102646 2636
928 USA+CAN 9288200011 - 201139 1129
928 Japan 9288209511 - 209575 65 3830
79 928 ROW 9289100011 - 103059 3049
928 USA+CAN 9289200011 - 202285 2275
928 Japan 9289209511 - 209623 113 5437
80 928 ROW 92A08000011 - 001192 1182
928 USA+CAN 92A08100011 - 101649 1639
928 S ROW 92A08200011 - 201466 1456 4277
81 928 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZBS800011 - 800657 647
928 USA+CAN WP0JA092_BS820011 - 821668 1658
928 S ROW WP0ZZZ92ZBS840011 - 841418 1408 3713
82 928 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZCS800051 - 800497 447
928 USA+CAN WP0JA092_CS820051 - 822701 2651
928 S ROW WP0ZZZ92ZCS840051 - 841502 1452 4550
83 928 S ROW WP0ZZZ92ZDS840061 - 841972 1912
928 S USA+CAN WP0JB092_DS860061 - 862146 2086 3998
84 928 S/S2 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZES840061 - 842088 2028
928 S USA+CAN WP0JB092_ES860061 - 863067 3007 5035
85 928 S/S2 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZFS840061 - 842228 2168
928 S Japan WP0ZZZ92ZFS849561 - 849660 100
928 S USA+CAN WP0JB092_FS860061 - 862279 2219 4487
86 928 S/S2 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZGS840061 - 841971 1911
928 S Japan WP0ZZZ92ZGS849561 - 849643 83
928 S USA+CAN WP0JB092_GS860061 - 860937 877
86.5 928 S USA+CAN WP0JB092_GS861001 - 863010 2010 4881
87 928 S4 ROW WP0ZZZ92ZHS840061 - 842244 2184
928 S4 Japan WP0ZZZ92ZHS849561 - 849746 186
928 S4 USA+CAN WP0JB092_HS860061 - 862481 2421 4791
88 928 S4/SE ROW WP0ZZZ92ZJS840061 - 842347 2287
928 CS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZJS845061 - 845070 10
928 S4 Japan WP0ZZZ92ZJS849561 - 849827 267
928 S4 USA+CAN WP0JB092_JS860061 - 861852 1792
928 CS USA+CAN WP0JB092_JS865061 - 865062 2 4358
89 928 S4/CS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZKS840061 - 841331 1271
928 S4/GT ROW WP0ZZZ92ZKS841332 - 842484 1153
928 S4 USA+CAN WP0JB092_KS860061 - 861088 1028
928 S4/GT USA+CAN WP0JB092_KS861089 - 861250 162 3614
90 928 S4/GT ROW WP0ZZZ92ZLS840061 - 842652 2592
928 S4/GT Canada WP0JB092_LS869061 - 869062 2
928 S4/GT USA+CAN WP0JB292_LS860063 - 860517 455 3049
91 928 S4/GT ROW WP0ZZZ92ZMS800061 - 801710 1650
928 S4/GT USA+CAN WP0AA292_MS810061 - 810447 387 2037
92 928 GTS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZNS800061 - 801015 955 955
93.E 928 GTS USA+CAN WP0AA292_PS815061 - 815148 88
93 928 GTS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZPS800061 - 800681 621
93.L 928 GTS USA+CAN WP0AA292_PS820061 - 820162 102 811
94.E 928 GTS USA+CAN WP0AA292_RS820061 - 820079 19
94 928 GTS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZRS800061 - 800583 523
94.L 928 GTS USA+CAN WP0AA292_RS820080 - 820199 120 662
95 928 GTS ROW WP0ZZZ92ZSS800061 - 800459 399
928 GTS USA+CAN WP0AA292_SS820061 - 820137 77 476
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Few earlier threads related to VIN's and number of 928's made:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/311463-looking-up-all-the-928-by-vin.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/367219-number-of-row-and-japanise-cars-in-us-and-canada.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/130727-production-numbers.html
Code:
1980
928 ROW LHD 5sp 404
928 ROW LHD Aut 435
928 ROW RHD 5sp 79
928 ROW RHD Aut 260
928 USA LHD 5sp 798
928 USA LHD Aut 837
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 775
928 S ROW LHD Aut 432
928 S ROW RHD 5sp 112
928 S ROW RHD Aut 133 4265
1981
928 ROW LHD 5sp 263
928 ROW LHD Aut 222
928 ROW RHD 5sp 31
928 ROW RHD Aut 115
928 USA LHD 5sp 766
928 USA LHD Aut 883
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 611
928 S ROW LHD Aut 523
928 S ROW RHD 5sp 96
928 S ROW RHD Aut 169 3679
1982
928 ROW LHD 5sp 159
928 ROW LHD Aut 98
928 ROW RHD 5sp 56
928 ROW RHD Aut 132
928 USA LHD 5sp 1059
928 USA LHD Aut 1577
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 559
928 S ROW LHD Aut 507
928 S ROW RHD 5sp 119
928 S ROW RHD Aut 267 4533
1983
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 719
928 S ROW LHD Aut 693
928 S ROW RHD 5sp 103
928 S ROW RHD Aut 394
928 S USA LHD 5sp 934
928 S USA LHD Aut 1150 3993
1984
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 618
928 S ROW LHD Aut 898
928 S USA LHD 5sp 584
928 S USA LHD Aut 2423
928 S2 ROW RHD 5sp 78
928 S2 ROW RHD Aut 422 5023
1985
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 500
928 S ROW LHD Aut 1123
928 S2 ROW RHD 5sp 46
928 S2 ROW RHD Aut 490
928 S3 ROW LHD Aut 67
928 S3 USA LHD 5sp 568
928 S3 USA LHD Aut 1508 4302
1986
928 S ROW LHD 5sp 422
928 S ROW LHD Aut 680
928 S2 ROW RHD 5sp 66
928 S2 ROW RHD Aut 324
928 S3 ROW LHD 5sp 80
928 S3 ROW LHD Aut 286
928 S3 ROW RHD 5sp 30
928 S3 ROW RHD Aut 121
928 S3 USA LHD 5sp 806
928 S3 USA LHD Aut 1979 4794
1987
928 S4 ROW LHD 5sp 712
928 S4 ROW LHD Aut 1232
928 S4 ROW RHD 5sp 55
928 S4 ROW RHD Aut 371
928 S4 USA LHD 5sp 548
928 S4 USA LHD Aut 1873 4791
1988
928 S4 ROW LHD 5sp 654
928 S4 ROW LHD Aut 1390
928 CS ROW LHD 5sp 10
928 S4 ROW RHD 5sp 87
928 S4 ROW RHD Aut 423
928 SE ROW RHD 5sp 42
928 S4 USA LHD 5sp 463
928 S4 USA LHD Aut 1329
928 CS USA LHD 5sp 2 4400
1989
928 S4 ROW LHD 5sp 337
928 S4 ROW LHD Aut 1260
928 CS ROW LHD 5sp 7
928 GT ROW LHD 5sp 289
928 S4 ROW RHD 5sp 18
928 S4 ROW RHD Aut 444
928 GT ROW RHD 5sp 69
928 S4 USA LHD 5sp 200
928 S4 USA LHD Aut 873
928 GT USA LHD 5sp 116 3613
1990
928 S4 ROW LHD Aut 1309
928 GT ROW LHD 5sp 656
928 S4 ROW RHD Aut 473
928 GT ROW RHD 5sp 155
928 S4 USA LHD Aut 314
928 GT USA LHD 5sp 145 3052
1991
928 S4 ROW LHD Aut 927
928 GT ROW LHD 5sp 470
928 S4 ROW RHD Aut 207
928 GT ROW RHD 5sp 46
928 S4 USA LHD Aut 242
928 GT USA LHD 5sp 145 2037
1992
928 GTS ROW LHD 5sp 210
928 GTS ROW LHD Aut 660
928 GTS ROW RHD 5sp 12
928 GTS ROW RHD Aut 73 955
1993
928 GTS USA E LHD 5sp 43
928 GTS USA E LHD Aut 45
928 GTS ROW LHD 5sp 116
928 GTS ROW LHD Aut 404
928 GTS ROW RHD 5sp 14
928 GTS ROW RHD Aut 87
928 GTS USA L LHD 5sp 46
928 GTS USA L LHD Aut 56 811
1994
928 GTS USA E LHD 5sp 4
928 GTS USA E LHD Aut 15
928 GTS ROW LHD 5sp 58
928 GTS ROW LHD Aut 346
928 GTS ROW RHD 5sp 18
928 GTS ROW RHD Aut 101
928 GTS USA L LHD 5sp 40
928 GTS USA L LHD Aut 80 662
1995
928 GTS ROW LHD 5sp 47
928 GTS ROW LHD Aut 278
928 GTS ROW RHD 5sp 7
928 GTS ROW RHD Aut 67
928 GTS USA LHD 5sp 30
928 GTS USA LHD Aut 47 476
51386
Code:
1989
C00 Germany LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841332 - 842477 198
C02 USA LHD WP0JB292_KS861096 - 861240 71
C03 California LHD WP0JB292_KS861110 - 861244 29
C05 France LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841682 - 842273 40
C07 Italy LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841990 - 842355 9
C08 Japan LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841739 - 842284 7
C09 Sweden LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841634 - 842483 11
C11 Austria LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841626 - 842187 6
C16 UK RHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841637 - 842484 60
C20 Holland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS842392 1
C22 Belgium LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841856 - 842274 13
C23 Australia RHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841873 - 842384 3
C26 South Africa RHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841702 - 842408 5
C27 Spain LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841494 - 841696 2
C36 Canada LHD WP0JB292_KS861089 - 861191 15
C80 ? LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841867 1
C99 Special LHD WP0ZZZ92ZKS841741 1 472
1990
C00 Germany LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840062 - 842651 356
C02 USA LHD WP0JB292_LS860074 - 860517 92
C03 California LHD WP0JB292_LS860068 - 860503 37
C05 France LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840125 - 842554 117
C07 Italy LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840169 - 842394 42
C08 Japan LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840122 - 842307 23
C09 Sweden LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840497 - 840891 2
C10 Switzerland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS841352 - 842579 19
C11 Austria LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840151 - 842423 7
C12 Denmark LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840946 1
C13 Finland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840106 1
C15 Hong Kong RHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840557 1
C16 UK RHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840178 - 842631 125
C18 Japan RHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840074 1
C20 Holland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840235 - 842366 8
C22 Belgium LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840242 - 842442 31
C23 Australia RHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840258 - 841975 18
C26 South Africa RHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840483 - 842006 10
C27 Spain LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840101 - 842530 30
C31 Saudi Arabia LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS841003 - 841271 3
C32 Arab Gulf States LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840957 - 842404 5
C36 Canada (no bags) LHD WP0JB292_LS869061 1
C36 Canada LHD WP0JB292_LS860193 - 860493 15
C80 ? LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840380 1
C99 Special LHD WP0ZZZ92ZLS840224 - 842264 7 953
1991
C00 Germany LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800065 - 801710 263
C02 USA LHD WP0AA292_MS810062 - 810447 139
C05 France LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800082 - 801666 72
C07 Italy LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800132 - 801647 32
C08 Japan LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800108 - 801370 38
C10 Switzerland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800148 - 801261 21
C11 Austria LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800144 - 801643 2
C12 Denmark LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800135 - 801318 2
C15 Hong Kong RHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800816 1
C16 UK RHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800117 - 801508 42
C19 Luxemburg LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS801219 - 801255 2
C20 Holland LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800085 - 801444 5
C22 Belgium LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800112 - 801665 13
C23 Australia RHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800097 - 800246 2
C26 South Africa RHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800139 1
C27 Spain LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800217 - 801524 17
C36 Canada LHD WP0AA292_MS810093 - 810288 6
C99 Special LHD WP0ZZZ92ZMS800525 - 801513 3 661
2086
Edit: Samuel's '87 and '88 upper limits added
Edit: '88 ROW S4 upper limit raised again
Edit: Mistake fixed in '80 MY ROW 4.5L upper limit, it is obviously 001192 instead of 101192
Edit: VIN range upper end checked for ROW and Japanise '81-95 MY models. New cars into '85 Japanise set, '87-88 and '94 ROW sets. 4 cars removed from '89 MY ROW set upper limit. I believe upper end of ranges are now correct or at least very close to it. There might still be some prototypes hiding below normal smallest VIN for some MY's.
Edit: LHD/RHD and 5sp/aut split added. Info is not available for '78-79 MY's but its fairly safe to say more than 50% of them were 5sp. Except maybe '79 MY RHD cars where slightly above 50% might have automatic gearbox.
Edit: Jörg Austen book info about 1585 being first ROW '89 MY GT is wrong. 1585 is S4. 1332 is first GT.
Edit: '78 MY 1st VIN for each set changed to 0011 and 9511. These are believed to be first "production" cars made with normal VINs.
Edit: GT split between different markets added.
Last edited by Vilhuer; 06-17-2012 at 06:44 PM.
11-28-2007, 07:36 PM
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Erkka,
Thanks for sharing the results of your extensive work.
Any news to report in the search for the elusive '88 US Club Sports?
Thanks for sharing the results of your extensive work.
Any news to report in the search for the elusive '88 US Club Sports?
11-29-2007, 03:14 PM
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Here are the VIN I have in my database (mostly cars of my club).
1978:
928 ROW, 9288100143 to 9288102402
1979:
928 ROW, 9289100035 to 9289102573
1980:
928 ROW, 92A0800011 to 92A0800500
928 S ROW, 92A0820270 to 92A0821368
1981:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS800020 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS800529
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS840056 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS841357
928 USA: WP0JA0923BS820926
1982:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS800061 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS800475
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS840085 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS841415
928 USA: WP0JA0924CS831238
1983:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZDS840099 to WP0ZZZ92ZDS841903
1984:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZES840183 to WP0ZZZ92ZES842047
928 S USA, WP0JB0920ES861208
1985:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZFS840108 to WP0ZZZ92ZFS842116
1986:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZGS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZGS841597
928 S3, ROW: WP0JB0926GS860440
1987:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZHS840095 to WP0ZZZ92ZHS842168
928 S4 USA, WP0JB0920HS861634
1988:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS842335 (the last ones were S4 SE)
928 S4 CS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS845061 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS845070
928 S4 CS USA, WP0AB092CJS865061 to WP0AB092CJS865062
1989:
928 S4, 928 S4 CS, 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZKS840084 to WP0ZZZ92ZKS842440
1990:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZLS840180 to WP0ZZZ92ZLS842503
1991:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZMS800259 to WP0ZZZ92ZMS801650
1992:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZNS800082 to WP0ZZZ92ZNS800978
1993:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZPS800086 to WP0ZZZ92ZPS800662
1994:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZRS800302 to WP0ZZZ92ZRS800505
1995:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZSS800092 to WP0ZZZ92ZSS800364
Here you are Erkka
Samuel
Here are the VIN I have in my database (mostly cars of my club).
1978:
928 ROW, 9288100143 to 9288102402
1979:
928 ROW, 9289100035 to 9289102573
1980:
928 ROW, 92A0800011 to 92A0800500
928 S ROW, 92A0820270 to 92A0821368
1981:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS800020 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS800529
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS840056 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS841357
928 USA: WP0JA0923BS820926
1982:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS800061 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS800475
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS840085 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS841415
928 USA: WP0JA0924CS831238
1983:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZDS840099 to WP0ZZZ92ZDS841903
1984:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZES840183 to WP0ZZZ92ZES842047
928 S USA, WP0JB0920ES861208
1985:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZFS840108 to WP0ZZZ92ZFS842116
1986:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZGS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZGS841597
928 S3, ROW: WP0JB0926GS860440
1987:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZHS840095 to WP0ZZZ92ZHS842168
928 S4 USA, WP0JB0920HS861634
1988:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS842335 (the last ones were S4 SE)
928 S4 CS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS845061 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS845070
928 S4 CS USA, WP0AB092CJS865061 to WP0AB092CJS865062
1989:
928 S4, 928 S4 CS, 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZKS840084 to WP0ZZZ92ZKS842440
1990:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZLS840180 to WP0ZZZ92ZLS842503
1991:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZMS800259 to WP0ZZZ92ZMS801650
1992:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZNS800082 to WP0ZZZ92ZNS800978
1993:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZPS800086 to WP0ZZZ92ZPS800662
1994:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZRS800302 to WP0ZZZ92ZRS800505
1995:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZSS800092 to WP0ZZZ92ZSS800364
Here you are Erkka
Samuel
11-29-2007, 04:26 PM
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Do .E and .L mean "early" and "late"? Is there any record of what changed between E and L for a given model year? Didn't Porsche save up several small things (like the change from Cup 1 to Cup 2 wheels on my late '94 GTS) and do them all together to be the "L" version?
There's no breakout by VIN between US and Canada, is there?
There's no breakout by VIN between US and Canada, is there?
11-29-2007, 05:12 PM
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Yes, E = early and L = late. Early is those cars which were done before normal model year change time in summer. These cars always have option M718. It seem to indicate just and only VIN change to make car look on the surface like its next years model. This was legally possible after January 1st of previous calendar year. So what changed between E and L is same as what changed between model years in ROW cars.
Early '93 means car has same parts as '92 MY ROW cars like studs to keep engine block halfs together and simpler breather system in valve covers. Obviously these have US equipment like impact bumpers when parts differ from normal ROW setup. I expect these cars to have '92 N engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.
Early '94 means car has same parts as '93 MY US cars and do not have '94 MY updates like CUP II wheels, RDK delete and pollen filter. I expect these cars to have '93 P engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.
Cars made for USA and Canada share same VIN sequence and are mixed together. Everything points to conclusion that they were made based on orders in random order. Only indication is in options to where car was heading. Specifically C option code which tells to what country car was made for. This determined what kind of equpment was put in like speedo in mph or kph etc.
'90 MY can be minor exception as I suspect two cars were made for Canada without airbags. Those two had different VDS code in VIN which tells what safety equipment is included. In JB0 zero means no airbags and in JB2 two means one bag each for both driver and front passanger. 9061 is GT in Canada and it would make sense if 9062 is in there too be it S4 or GT. They were both very likely made in very beginning of MY as there wouldn't be much sense to start adding bags first and then make just two non airbag cars later on. By using 9000 series VIN Porsche was probably making things easier for themselves and setting up separate sequence for Canada. Very likely they realised soon that it would be much better to just add bags to all Canadian cars too. This makes it much more easier to sell used car into US. I suspect US authorities would not likely allow '90 MY cars into USA without bags. Now someone will obviously come up that 9062 was in US since new but this is my theory until something new comes up.
Early '93 means car has same parts as '92 MY ROW cars like studs to keep engine block halfs together and simpler breather system in valve covers. Obviously these have US equipment like impact bumpers when parts differ from normal ROW setup. I expect these cars to have '92 N engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.
Early '94 means car has same parts as '93 MY US cars and do not have '94 MY updates like CUP II wheels, RDK delete and pollen filter. I expect these cars to have '93 P engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.
Cars made for USA and Canada share same VIN sequence and are mixed together. Everything points to conclusion that they were made based on orders in random order. Only indication is in options to where car was heading. Specifically C option code which tells to what country car was made for. This determined what kind of equpment was put in like speedo in mph or kph etc.
'90 MY can be minor exception as I suspect two cars were made for Canada without airbags. Those two had different VDS code in VIN which tells what safety equipment is included. In JB0 zero means no airbags and in JB2 two means one bag each for both driver and front passanger. 9061 is GT in Canada and it would make sense if 9062 is in there too be it S4 or GT. They were both very likely made in very beginning of MY as there wouldn't be much sense to start adding bags first and then make just two non airbag cars later on. By using 9000 series VIN Porsche was probably making things easier for themselves and setting up separate sequence for Canada. Very likely they realised soon that it would be much better to just add bags to all Canadian cars too. This makes it much more easier to sell used car into US. I suspect US authorities would not likely allow '90 MY cars into USA without bags. Now someone will obviously come up that 9062 was in US since new but this is my theory until something new comes up.
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01-29-2008, 02:10 AM
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Many times. See for example this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463
Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...
Thanks for the update Samuel.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463
Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...
Thanks for the update Samuel.
01-29-2008, 03:45 PM
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Samuel thought my 928 was a prototype because the VIN ended in 60. But I understand this type of numbering only started in 83.
my euro 82 registered for road use in August 81 has the VIN WP0 ZZZ 92 ZCS 840 060; the euro 82 series in this list starts WP0ZZZ92ZCS840051. Consequently I strongly doubt that I have a prototype.
BTW, I heard the 2008 euro 928 will be in Germany in September at the Nurburgring; anybody can confirm this rumour?
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my euro 82 registered for road use in August 81 has the VIN WP0 ZZZ 92 ZCS 840 060; the euro 82 series in this list starts WP0ZZZ92ZCS840051. Consequently I strongly doubt that I have a prototype.
BTW, I heard the 2008 euro 928 will be in Germany in September at the Nurburgring; anybody can confirm this rumour?
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01-29-2008, 04:28 PM
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Many times. See for example this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463
Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...
Thanks for the update Samuel.
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463
Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...
Thanks for the update Samuel.
01-30-2008, 08:33 AM
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