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Old 11-28-2007, 04:09 PM
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This has been long time coming. Been meaning to make compilation message containing all 928 VIN sequences in order to find out how accurare info I have so far. Data is based on several sources, mainly Tech spec books, J÷rg Austen's book and Carfax database. Aim is to make this list as complete as possible and to use it to calculate as accurately as possible total number of 928's made in each MY for all markets.

Code:
MY   Model     Market   Smallest VIN   Largest VIN   Qty  Total
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78   928       ROW      9288100011        - 102646  2636
     928       USA+CAN  9288200011        - 201139  1129
     928       Japan    9288209511        - 209575    65   3830
79   928       ROW      9289100011        - 103059  3049
     928       USA+CAN  9289200011        - 202285  2275
     928       Japan    9289209511        - 209623   113   5437
80   928       ROW      92A08000011       - 001192  1182
     928       USA+CAN  92A08100011       - 101649  1639
     928 S     ROW      92A08200011       - 201466  1456   4277
81   928       ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZBS800011 - 800657   647
     928       USA+CAN  WP0JA092_BS820011 - 821668  1658
     928 S     ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZBS840011 - 841418  1408   3713
82   928       ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZCS800051 - 800497   447
     928       USA+CAN  WP0JA092_CS820051 - 822701  2651
     928 S     ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZCS840051 - 841502  1452   4550
83   928 S     ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZDS840061 - 841972  1912
     928 S     USA+CAN  WP0JB092_DS860061 - 862146  2086   3998
84   928 S/S2  ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZES840061 - 842088  2028
     928 S     USA+CAN  WP0JB092_ES860061 - 863067  3007   5035
85   928 S/S2  ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZFS840061 - 842228  2168
     928 S     Japan    WP0ZZZ92ZFS849561 - 849660   100
     928 S     USA+CAN  WP0JB092_FS860061 - 862279  2219   4487
86   928 S/S2  ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZGS840061 - 841971  1911
     928 S     Japan    WP0ZZZ92ZGS849561 - 849643    83
     928 S     USA+CAN  WP0JB092_GS860061 - 860937   877
86.5 928 S     USA+CAN  WP0JB092_GS861001 - 863010  2010   4881
87   928 S4    ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZHS840061 - 842244  2184
     928 S4    Japan    WP0ZZZ92ZHS849561 - 849746   186
     928 S4    USA+CAN  WP0JB092_HS860061 - 862481  2421   4791
88   928 S4/SE ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZJS840061 - 842347  2287
     928 CS    ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZJS845061 - 845070    10
     928 S4    Japan    WP0ZZZ92ZJS849561 - 849827   267
     928 S4    USA+CAN  WP0JB092_JS860061 - 861852  1792
     928 CS    USA+CAN  WP0JB092_JS865061 - 865062     2   4358
89   928 S4/CS ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZKS840061 - 841331  1271
     928 S4/GT ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZKS841332 - 842484  1153
     928 S4    USA+CAN  WP0JB092_KS860061 - 861088  1028
     928 S4/GT USA+CAN  WP0JB092_KS861089 - 861250   162   3614
90   928 S4/GT ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZLS840061 - 842652  2592
     928 S4/GT Canada   WP0JB092_LS869061 - 869062     2
     928 S4/GT USA+CAN  WP0JB292_LS860063 - 860517   455   3049
91   928 S4/GT ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZMS800061 - 801710  1650
     928 S4/GT USA+CAN  WP0AA292_MS810061 - 810447   387   2037
92   928 GTS   ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZNS800061 - 801015   955    955
93.E 928 GTS   USA+CAN  WP0AA292_PS815061 - 815148    88
93   928 GTS   ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZPS800061 - 800681   621
93.L 928 GTS   USA+CAN  WP0AA292_PS820061 - 820162   102    811
94.E 928 GTS   USA+CAN  WP0AA292_RS820061 - 820079    19
94   928 GTS   ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZRS800061 - 800583   523
94.L 928 GTS   USA+CAN  WP0AA292_RS820080 - 820199   120    662
95   928 GTS   ROW      WP0ZZZ92ZSS800061 - 800459   399
     928 GTS   USA+CAN  WP0AA292_SS820061 - 820137    77    476
---------------------------------------------------------------
                                                          60961
None of the numbers are absolutely certainly correct. If anyone has VIN which is not in range please let me know. Same thing with knowledge of smaller limits. All missing or too larger numbers will affect both MY specific and total count of cars made. I expect total to be very close to 61056 mentioned elsewhere. Getting afully close already.

Few earlier threads related to VIN's and number of 928's made:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/311463-looking-up-all-the-928-by-vin.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/367219-number-of-row-and-japanise-cars-in-us-and-canada.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/130727-production-numbers.html

Code:
1980
928        ROW    LHD    5sp     404
928        ROW    LHD    Aut     435
928        ROW    RHD    5sp      79
928        ROW    RHD    Aut     260
928        USA    LHD    5sp     798
928        USA    LHD    Aut     837
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     775
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     432
928 S      ROW    RHD    5sp     112
928 S      ROW    RHD    Aut     133    4265

1981
928        ROW    LHD    5sp     263
928        ROW    LHD    Aut     222
928        ROW    RHD    5sp      31
928        ROW    RHD    Aut     115
928        USA    LHD    5sp     766
928        USA    LHD    Aut     883
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     611
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     523
928 S      ROW    RHD    5sp      96
928 S      ROW    RHD    Aut     169    3679

1982
928        ROW    LHD    5sp     159
928        ROW    LHD    Aut      98
928        ROW    RHD    5sp      56
928        ROW    RHD    Aut     132
928        USA    LHD    5sp    1059
928        USA    LHD    Aut    1577
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     559
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     507
928 S      ROW    RHD    5sp     119
928 S      ROW    RHD    Aut     267    4533

1983
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     719
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     693
928 S      ROW    RHD    5sp     103
928 S      ROW    RHD    Aut     394
928 S      USA    LHD    5sp     934
928 S      USA    LHD    Aut    1150    3993

1984
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     618
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     898
928 S      USA    LHD    5sp     584
928 S      USA    LHD    Aut    2423
928 S2     ROW    RHD    5sp      78
928 S2     ROW    RHD    Aut     422    5023


1985
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     500
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut    1123
928 S2     ROW    RHD    5sp      46
928 S2     ROW    RHD    Aut     490
928 S3     ROW    LHD    Aut      67
928 S3     USA    LHD    5sp     568
928 S3     USA    LHD    Aut    1508    4302

1986
928 S      ROW    LHD    5sp     422
928 S      ROW    LHD    Aut     680
928 S2     ROW    RHD    5sp      66
928 S2     ROW    RHD    Aut     324
928 S3     ROW    LHD    5sp      80
928 S3     ROW    LHD    Aut     286
928 S3     ROW    RHD    5sp      30
928 S3     ROW    RHD    Aut     121
928 S3     USA    LHD    5sp     806
928 S3     USA    LHD    Aut    1979    4794

1987
928 S4     ROW    LHD    5sp     712
928 S4     ROW    LHD    Aut    1232
928 S4     ROW    RHD    5sp      55
928 S4     ROW    RHD    Aut     371
928 S4     USA    LHD    5sp     548
928 S4     USA    LHD    Aut    1873    4791

1988
928 S4     ROW    LHD    5sp     654
928 S4     ROW    LHD    Aut    1390
928 CS     ROW    LHD    5sp      10
928 S4     ROW    RHD    5sp      87
928 S4     ROW    RHD    Aut     423
928 SE     ROW    RHD    5sp      42
928 S4     USA    LHD    5sp     463
928 S4     USA    LHD    Aut    1329
928 CS     USA    LHD    5sp       2    4400

1989
928 S4     ROW    LHD    5sp     337
928 S4     ROW    LHD    Aut    1260
928 CS     ROW    LHD    5sp       7
928 GT     ROW    LHD    5sp     289
928 S4     ROW    RHD    5sp      18
928 S4     ROW    RHD    Aut     444
928 GT     ROW    RHD    5sp      69
928 S4     USA    LHD    5sp     200
928 S4     USA    LHD    Aut     873
928 GT     USA    LHD    5sp     116    3613

1990
928 S4     ROW    LHD    Aut    1309
928 GT     ROW    LHD    5sp     656
928 S4     ROW    RHD    Aut     473
928 GT     ROW    RHD    5sp     155
928 S4     USA    LHD    Aut     314
928 GT     USA    LHD    5sp     145    3052

1991
928 S4     ROW    LHD    Aut     927
928 GT     ROW    LHD    5sp     470
928 S4     ROW    RHD    Aut     207
928 GT     ROW    RHD    5sp      46
928 S4     USA    LHD    Aut     242
928 GT     USA    LHD    5sp     145    2037

1992
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    5sp     210
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    Aut     660
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    5sp      12
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    Aut      73     955

1993
928 GTS    USA E  LHD    5sp      43
928 GTS    USA E  LHD    Aut      45
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    5sp     116
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    Aut     404
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    5sp      14
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    Aut      87
928 GTS    USA L  LHD    5sp      46
928 GTS    USA L  LHD    Aut      56     811

1994
928 GTS    USA E  LHD    5sp       4
928 GTS    USA E  LHD    Aut      15
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    5sp      58
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    Aut     346
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    5sp      18
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    Aut     101
928 GTS    USA L  LHD    5sp      40
928 GTS    USA L  LHD    Aut      80     662

1995
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    5sp      47
928 GTS    ROW    LHD    Aut     278
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    5sp       7
928 GTS    ROW    RHD    Aut      67
928 GTS    USA    LHD    5sp      30    
928 GTS    USA    LHD    Aut      47     476
                                       51386
GT's made for different markets and first + last VIN for each of them.
Code:
1989
C00 Germany           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841332 - 842477   198
C02 USA               LHD  WP0JB292_KS861096 - 861240    71
C03 California        LHD  WP0JB292_KS861110 - 861244    29
C05 France            LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841682 - 842273    40
C07 Italy             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841990 - 842355     9
C08 Japan             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841739 - 842284     7
C09 Sweden            LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841634 - 842483    11
C11 Austria           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841626 - 842187     6
C16 UK                RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841637 - 842484    60
C20 Holland           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS842392              1
C22 Belgium           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841856 - 842274    13
C23 Australia         RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841873 - 842384     3
C26 South Africa      RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841702 - 842408     5
C27 Spain             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841494 - 841696     2
C36 Canada            LHD  WP0JB292_KS861089 - 861191    15
C80 ?                 LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841867              1
C99 Special           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZKS841741              1  472

1990
C00 Germany           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840062 - 842651   356
C02 USA               LHD  WP0JB292_LS860074 - 860517    92
C03 California        LHD  WP0JB292_LS860068 - 860503    37
C05 France            LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840125 - 842554   117
C07 Italy             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840169 - 842394    42
C08 Japan             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840122 - 842307    23
C09 Sweden            LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840497 - 840891     2
C10 Switzerland       LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS841352 - 842579    19
C11 Austria           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840151 - 842423     7
C12 Denmark           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840946              1
C13 Finland           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840106              1
C15 Hong Kong         RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840557              1
C16 UK                RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840178 - 842631   125
C18 Japan             RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840074              1
C20 Holland           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840235 - 842366     8
C22 Belgium           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840242 - 842442    31
C23 Australia         RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840258 - 841975    18
C26 South Africa      RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840483 - 842006    10
C27 Spain             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840101 - 842530    30
C31 Saudi Arabia      LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS841003 - 841271     3
C32 Arab Gulf States  LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840957 - 842404     5
C36 Canada (no bags)  LHD  WP0JB292_LS869061              1
C36 Canada            LHD  WP0JB292_LS860193 - 860493    15
C80 ?                 LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840380              1
C99 Special           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZLS840224 - 842264     7  953

1991
C00 Germany           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800065 - 801710   263
C02 USA               LHD  WP0AA292_MS810062 - 810447   139
C05 France            LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800082 - 801666    72
C07 Italy             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800132 - 801647    32
C08 Japan             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800108 - 801370    38
C10 Switzerland       LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800148 - 801261    21
C11 Austria           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800144 - 801643     2
C12 Denmark           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800135 - 801318     2
C15 Hong Kong         RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800816              1
C16 UK                RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800117 - 801508    42
C19 Luxemburg         LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS801219 - 801255     2
C20 Holland           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800085 - 801444     5
C22 Belgium           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800112 - 801665    13
C23 Australia         RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800097 - 800246     2
C26 South Africa      RHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800139              1
C27 Spain             LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800217 - 801524    17
C36 Canada            LHD  WP0AA292_MS810093 - 810288     6
C99 Special           LHD  WP0ZZZ92ZMS800525 - 801513     3  661

                                                            2086
Edit: Fixed typo in '90 MY two Canadian cars VIN.
Edit: Samuel's '87 and '88 upper limits added
Edit: '88 ROW S4 upper limit raised again
Edit: Mistake fixed in '80 MY ROW 4.5L upper limit, it is obviously 001192 instead of 101192
Edit: VIN range upper end checked for ROW and Japanise '81-95 MY models. New cars into '85 Japanise set, '87-88 and '94 ROW sets. 4 cars removed from '89 MY ROW set upper limit. I believe upper end of ranges are now correct or at least very close to it. There might still be some prototypes hiding below normal smallest VIN for some MY's.
Edit: LHD/RHD and 5sp/aut split added. Info is not available for '78-79 MY's but its fairly safe to say more than 50% of them were 5sp. Except maybe '79 MY RHD cars where slightly above 50% might have automatic gearbox.
Edit: J÷rg Austen book info about 1585 being first ROW '89 MY GT is wrong. 1585 is S4. 1332 is first GT.
Edit: '78 MY 1st VIN for each set changed to 0011 and 9511. These are believed to be first "production" cars made with normal VINs.
Edit: GT split between different markets added.

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Old 11-28-2007, 07:36 PM
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Erkka,

Thanks for sharing the results of your extensive work.

Any news to report in the search for the elusive '88 US Club Sports?
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Nothing new on US CS for ages. They will surface eventually like everything else interesting also.
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Cool stuff. Thanks for gathering and posting this!
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Hello!

Here are the VIN I have in my database (mostly cars of my club).
1978:
928 ROW, 9288100143 to 9288102402

1979:
928 ROW, 9289100035 to 9289102573

1980:
928 ROW, 92A0800011 to 92A0800500
928 S ROW, 92A0820270 to 92A0821368

1981:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS800020 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS800529
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZBS840056 to WP0ZZZ92ZBS841357
928 USA: WP0JA0923BS820926

1982:
928 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS800061 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS800475
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZCS840085 to WP0ZZZ92ZCS841415
928 USA: WP0JA0924CS831238

1983:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZDS840099 to WP0ZZZ92ZDS841903

1984:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZES840183 to WP0ZZZ92ZES842047
928 S USA, WP0JB0920ES861208

1985:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZFS840108 to WP0ZZZ92ZFS842116

1986:
928 S ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZGS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZGS841597
928 S3, ROW: WP0JB0926GS860440

1987:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZHS840095 to WP0ZZZ92ZHS842168
928 S4 USA, WP0JB0920HS861634

1988:
928 S4 ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS840093 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS842335 (the last ones were S4 SE)
928 S4 CS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZJS845061 to WP0ZZZ92ZJS845070
928 S4 CS USA, WP0AB092CJS865061 to WP0AB092CJS865062

1989:
928 S4, 928 S4 CS, 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZKS840084 to WP0ZZZ92ZKS842440

1990:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZLS840180 to WP0ZZZ92ZLS842503

1991:
928 S4 and 928 GT ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZMS800259 to WP0ZZZ92ZMS801650

1992:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZNS800082 to WP0ZZZ92ZNS800978

1993:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZPS800086 to WP0ZZZ92ZPS800662

1994:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZRS800302 to WP0ZZZ92ZRS800505

1995:
928 GTS ROW, WP0ZZZ92ZSS800092 to WP0ZZZ92ZSS800364

Here you are Erkka

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Do .E and .L mean "early" and "late"? Is there any record of what changed between E and L for a given model year? Didn't Porsche save up several small things (like the change from Cup 1 to Cup 2 wheels on my late '94 GTS) and do them all together to be the "L" version?

There's no breakout by VIN between US and Canada, is there?
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Yes, E = early and L = late. Early is those cars which were done before normal model year change time in summer. These cars always have option M718. It seem to indicate just and only VIN change to make car look on the surface like its next years model. This was legally possible after January 1st of previous calendar year. So what changed between E and L is same as what changed between model years in ROW cars.

Early '93 means car has same parts as '92 MY ROW cars like studs to keep engine block halfs together and simpler breather system in valve covers. Obviously these have US equipment like impact bumpers when parts differ from normal ROW setup. I expect these cars to have '92 N engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.

Early '94 means car has same parts as '93 MY US cars and do not have '94 MY updates like CUP II wheels, RDK delete and pollen filter. I expect these cars to have '93 P engine and gearbox numbers which are within same set of numbers as those ROW cars which were made at same time.

Cars made for USA and Canada share same VIN sequence and are mixed together. Everything points to conclusion that they were made based on orders in random order. Only indication is in options to where car was heading. Specifically C option code which tells to what country car was made for. This determined what kind of equpment was put in like speedo in mph or kph etc.

'90 MY can be minor exception as I suspect two cars were made for Canada without airbags. Those two had different VDS code in VIN which tells what safety equipment is included. In JB0 zero means no airbags and in JB2 two means one bag each for both driver and front passanger. 9061 is GT in Canada and it would make sense if 9062 is in there too be it S4 or GT. They were both very likely made in very beginning of MY as there wouldn't be much sense to start adding bags first and then make just two non airbag cars later on. By using 9000 series VIN Porsche was probably making things easier for themselves and setting up separate sequence for Canada. Very likely they realised soon that it would be much better to just add bags to all Canadian cars too. This makes it much more easier to sell used car into US. I suspect US authorities would not likely allow '90 MY cars into USA without bags. Now someone will obviously come up that 9062 was in US since new but this is my theory until something new comes up.
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Thats great info thanks guys.
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I have just noticed that 92A08000011, the first ROW 1980 928 is in my club.

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Just a short note to inform Erkka that wp0zzz92zJs842342 is now in my club.
This changes the know limit of the 1988 MY for the ROW S4s.

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Originally Posted by Vilhuer View Post
Nothing new on US CS for ages. They will surface eventually like everything else interesting also.
Has anybody Carfaxed them?
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog View Post
Has anybody Carfaxed them?
Many times. See for example this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463

Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...

Thanks for the update Samuel.
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Samuel thought my 928 was a prototype because the VIN ended in 60. But I understand this type of numbering only started in 83.

my euro 82 registered for road use in August 81 has the VIN WP0 ZZZ 92 ZCS 840 060; the euro 82 series in this list starts WP0ZZZ92ZCS840051. Consequently I strongly doubt that I have a prototype.


BTW, I heard the 2008 euro 928 will be in Germany in September at the Nurburgring; anybody can confirm this rumour?

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Originally Posted by Vilhuer View Post
Many times. See for example this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311463

Problem is that no one seems to know for certain what is their VIN. I have tried practically every combination I can think of but Carfax hasn't given out anything yet. So still work in progress...

Thanks for the update Samuel.
Have you tried a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request through US Customs service? You might need to get a US resident/citizen to do it for you.
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Have you tried a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request through US Customs service? You might need to get a US resident/citizen to do it for you.
No, gets little too much work for VIN hunting. Now if I lived in US and had some extra $$$ for CS purchase then...
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