hinchcliffe

Hey now, cut that out.

bigs

Never work. I'd be throwing up.

bigs

Wagon??!! Did you say wagon??!!

<Aside> Did he say WAGON??!!

Bill Ball

He's got a point. The 928 can carry picnic supplies for 50+ people, including drinks, and rather quickly too. So, to be apples to apples, the comparo car would probably have to be a wagon.

bigs

Oh the humanity!

bigs

OK then. I'm gonna start looking for a 928 woody.

mark kibort

you guys forgot, a weekend of supplies, tent, bedding, 4 big wheels and tires, jack, tools, spare parts, driving supplies, etc etc, and a removable stereo system with sub woofer!!!
thats me on the way to the track !!!!!!
I call it, the porsche stationwagon! hey, when it was more streetable, i remember going to ski races with my buddy and two sets of 217 super G skis!!!!! very comfortable, and very hard to beat!!!! (in the comfy performance division!)
Mk

Drewster67

479RWHP @ 23 PSI from a 2.5L ??/ Wow ! I wonder how durable it is @ 23PSI

hinchcliffe

Did I hear it called a wagon? No no, hatchback, kids, hatchback. Like the Dodge Magnum...........

fabric

Hey, the reason I love the 928 is that it's actually fairly practical. You can carry a lot of stuff in it. Of all the cars that have come up in this list, how many can swallow as much gear as the 928 (look at Kiborts list!)? Even a 740 or S-class could only hold 2 people if you put as much crap in it as the 928 can handle. I guess it depends on which portion of "more than a 928" you're looking at. It would have to be wagon or another hatchback, because the only thing the 928 can't do is haul 4 people and all this stuff.

That actually narrows the list down: 540 wagon, Saab Viggen, 9-3 or 9-5 sport combi, Volvo S70R, MB E55 wagon, Dodge Magnum SRT8. All these other exotics - impractible rubbish.

Dennis K

This is no lie.

A few years ago, I was at a track day up at Thunderhill. To set the scene, it's early in the morning before the first run session and everyone is in the paddock preparing their cars. People are torque-ing lugnuts, taping numbers and generally making final adjustments. Kind of a focused and quiet atmosphere.

At the last possible second before the first rungroup, Kibort in his '79 OB track car roars into the paddock and comes to a screeching halt. You can hear bass thumping from the subwoofer as War's "Lowrider" is playing at full blast while he unloads the car.

"Low. Ri. Der. Ride a little lower."

Everyone stops working for a second and kind of stares with a "WTF?" look on their face. Priceless.

RolexNJ

Mark: Sorry, need to interject pal. That's the Lindsey Racing car, not mine. If you want to see what my car can do, visit ---> www.robertricciardi.com. I have a 1989 3.0L 8V which made 461RWHP/406TQ @18PSI on pump gas too. And since then, I've done alot more mods and still need to do more tuning. The car will be done in Spring 2006. My web site has all my info and thenseome. Watch out you Sharks, some 944T guys may take a nibble at ya with half the engine! Sorry for the OT guys.

Back to the program...

mark kibort

thats what i was asking when the evo guy brought out the newer and more improved EvO 3 liter 440hp version to the last half of the season!

if the evo motor can take 26psi, i guess the porsche 944 can take it too!

seems unnatural though! 148hp / liter. hmmm what would a 5 liter make???? 736hp!!!!!!

MK

RolexNJ

There is a lot, a real lot of misinformation and old school thinking of what a 944T can and cannot do. Provided that the car is first mechanically in great shape, and that you have the proper mods to support your projected BHP, and have the best EMS stuff, and yes a perfectly tuned A/F, you can run high boost for extended periods of time. There are alot of guys who run 20PSI+ for years with stock internal and bottom ends. So this is fact, not fiction. So running 22-25PSI, under those assumptions, can be run for DEs and/or racing events. The guy who has the fastest 944T on our forums has a 2.5L, with stock internals, stock bottom end, and some "mild" bolt ons, not a huge list, has been running high boost on the track for years with his car. And to date, has never blown the engine, and the botton end is still intact with zero issues. And he is making 533 RWHP & 472 TQ (@ the wheels) at 25 PSI with race gas too. Also, with some nice areas under the curve, and he makes 1 bar of boost at a very very low RPM. So this equates to about 600 BHP + and 542 TQ. Not bad right? And as I said, thats with bolt on parts, not going all out too. He is right up there just about with an Enzo Ferrari ($1.1 mil) cranking out 650 BHP. And his car is also slimmed down to weight 2580 lb. too. And Mark, his car is also street legal with plates too! The power to weight is pretty damn good.

Now, when I get my car done, I think I'm going to even give him a serious run for the money - especially since I have a 3.0L vs. his 2.5L, and I had every Goddamn mod in the book for a 944T. And oh, this guy alao happens to be my tuner, who's one of the best in the northeast with the EMS stuff I have installed too. So, could his car and my car be considered a competitor against a 928, I think so. Moreso his because it's just bolt on stuff.

Jim bailey - 928 International

The 944 GTR tube frame Fabcar Transam cars made about 650 hp out of 2.5 liters...