david928

These cars are not in the same class as the 928, but has anyone mentioned the V12 Jag XKE? Or the Mitsubishi 3000 GT?

bgibby

I know it's kinda late on this topic, but what about the new GTO? 400 HP, 6 sp, reasonably priced.

Brian
90 GT

bigs

If it just weren't a Pontiac

EB338

or even worse if it didn't look so much like every other Pontiac

Micah

Not to go off-topic, but are you familiar with the XB-70 program, Erich?

When this thread first started, I just kept thinking that the 944 Turbo was one of the better options (and it was interesting to see it come up later in the post). There were magazine tests back in the day that called the 951 a value because it was so much like a 928 for so much less - a true compliment to both cars, really.

Micah

bigs

...And probably contributed to the demise of the 928! The 951 offered very close performance at a much lower price. Just ask me. After trying my first brand new '84 928S and being a little disappointed in the lack of power, I next bought a 951, then a Turbo S. Very impressive bang for the buck.

fabric

Put 4 average height Brits in the 928 and see how far you make it. To say the 928 backseats are practical for any other than very small people is a real stretch. Yes, it can be done, but let's be realistic - even if I were 5'4" I'd rather sit in the back of a 740. The 928 back seats are just not that comfortable.

And it's not the headroom that's the problem, it's the legroom. I'm 6'1" and have as much headroom in the back as in the front. It's nearly nil, but it's enough. Legroom, that's the downfall. If there was a map pocket on the back of the front seat I could stuff my sack in it. You just have nowhere to put your legs or feet, and there is no pocket, so your sack either. And in one place where I think the engineers really fell down - why the hell is the fuse box in the front passenger footwell? I have all this room for my legs on the driver side, but with that fuse box there, it forces you to push the passenger front seat farther back, when it conceivably could have been far enough forward to make the right rear liveable for it's inhabitants.

Sorry, got off on a tangent, I needed to vent. Sorry.

Flint

Ever seen those Godfather's Pizza commercials? I've fit "Frankie" in my back seat with a 6'4" friend in front of him. Admittedly Frank's not that tall, but he's still built like the ex-Husker he is.

But on the fuse box, not to mention the brains and computers just next to the passenger's right foot.

Royal Tiger

My former ride, a 1994 Subaru SVX LSi was a nice sub-GT car. AWD, 230hp Flat 6 and a really nice leather interior. But it was auto only (the 5-speed they had at the time was to weak) and it could easily use 100 more hp. A fun car, especially since you can get a nice one for $5k and use it as your winter ride. I never got mine stuck in the white stuff. The BMW M6 looks to be fantastic with a huge hp V-10. I can't wait to see the new Panamera. It is being billed as a Quattroporte competitor.

EB338

Not first hand unfortunately but yes I am quite well read on the XB-70.....but you sir have the avitar I want! Phantom Phlyer or just an enthusiast?

H2

Henrich,

I got the 968 because of the looks..pure and simple...plus added reliability of the newer model and I like the way the Tbelt belt is better protected..although the balance belt is not the best. It wasn't seat of the pants performance or ultra GT comfort (not bad though) that I bought the car. If the 968 had a 928 engine, we'd have one great car. However, if I were to install one of the developing turbo kits on the 968..that would be screaming car...but then again, so would my 928. A cheaper alternativea and probably just as good would be the 944S. I prefer the 968 because it remids me of my favorite car..the 928

Harvey

Gentlmen I shall again own a 944. It doesn't even have to be 951 .... maybe an S2 Cabrio .... perhaps 968 ... but own one I shall. They are wonderful, fun, exciting, beautiful Porsches

Micah

Erich,

I was 10 years too late, unfortunately. I'm an AF pilot, but the last active-duty rhinos were gone when I was still in High School. The Indiana guard had them for a long time and that's where my affinity really began; I would love nothing more than to get my hands on one for just a few minutes.

I asked because I knew that only a true enthusiast would have a picture of a Valkyrie fully configured on approach! If you'd ever like any detail shots of the last one, let me know. I could throw a rock from our apartment and hit the museum annex at Wright-Patterson.



Micah

EB338

Micah,

I was about 5 minutes too late as it turned out. Missouri ANG had F-4E models and I was on my way in and they converted to F-15a the year I was old enough. I got to go to the retirement ceremony, also went to the one at Wichita KS ANG the year before. My father was in MOANG when they had F-100's so I did manage no small amount of simulator time and one ride in 338 (the two mig kills F4e they now have stuffed and mounted) Once I lost my Phantoms I went a different direction, if I had it to do over I should have gone ahead and flown the 15. I was going to use a B-58 for my avitar but I had hard enough time finding any pic that suited me small enough to work. Ive been to see the XB-70 there at Dayton, born too late all the way around for the good stuff it seems......

fabric

Not familiar with that commercial. I've gotten 4 full size adults in the 928, but the guys in the back didn't look happy. They were around 5'9:, the guys in front just over 6'. It's doable in a pinch; lots of guys here put there kids back there, they probably love it - I know I would have, with those fancy bucket seats in the back, beats a boring bench seat.

My wife could never ride back there. She gets wigged out riding in the back of coupes, but it's much tighter in the 928, and with the center console, you are hemmed in on both sides. I've sat back there a few times, just to see what it's like, and the couple minutes I was there was enough for me. I think the fact that I could barely move also had something to do with it as well.

Jim M.

Porsche 928 - Faster than anything as luxurious, more luxurious than anything as fast.

"Cynics and died-in-the-wool 911 and 356 fanatics tend to write the 928 off as a cross between a 924 and a Corvette. They're wrong. If you approach this car with an open mind, open the door, sit down, fire it up and drive it away, it will quite simply blow your mind. To get out of whatever you were driving and take the 928 for a spin is as liberating as your first ride on a motorcycle, your first kiss from a girl who knew how. You may frighten yourself, in a burst of unbridled enthusiasm, but the 928 won't. It's a rolling womb of whispering, humming, tactile assurances that everything on this particular road on this particular day is going to be all right. Dreamlike, you fly down the road like a bat out of hell with nothing more than the blurring of the trees and the moan of the engine to call your attention to the speedometer. This is grand touring, folks, and whatever it costs, it's worth It." - David E. Davis, Jr. April 1978

It’s about as fast as you can go without having to eat airline food!

People ask us: why do we put so much performance in a luxury car? And others ask: Why do we put so much luxury in a performance car? To both, the answer is the same. We are Porsche. And we know.... no other way. At Porsche: Excellence is expected.

Tony Lapine said it best: “Give us credit that we learned a bit during the 20 or so years that we built the rear engine sports car and we had a few ideas how to improve on it. That's why 911 drivers don't like the 928, it doesn't feel like it’s handling properly because the onset of all the bad habits of the 911 are pushed much higher up the overall performance curve. It is very hard to make it do the bad things a 911 chassis will do and so it’s perceived to be sluggish or heavy. In fact if you look at the speedo or tach you are actually eating up the terrain at a much higher level with more confidence. That was our goal.

The above says it all for me!

Jim Mayzurk
93 GTS 5-spd