To those who have done V8 Swaps
08-29-2012, 08:19 AM
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Fishey - you have got to be kidding me.
LS F-Bodies are ~100mph cars up here. Your car with a massive N2O shot at sea level is not a comparison. Up here you would have ran ~110mph - which is what my car did with a K27 and stock long-block.
Sid's car is pretty much the exact same speed/time as this supercharged LS2 vette (635hp):
LS F-Bodies are ~100mph cars up here. Your car with a massive N2O shot at sea level is not a comparison. Up here you would have ran ~110mph - which is what my car did with a K27 and stock long-block.
Sid's car is pretty much the exact same speed/time as this supercharged LS2 vette (635hp):
08-29-2012, 01:25 PM
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I've explained the effects of altitude more times than I care to remember...
If you think that N2O cars are unaffected by altitude, then good luck with with that
If you think that N2O cars are unaffected by altitude, then good luck with with that
08-29-2012, 05:34 PM
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I guess you didn't bother to read my posts either, instead you just make up what you think I said 
I posted a comparison of a budget build 951, to a supercharged LS2. Both cars are similar in weight, both cars run low 120mph at our local track.
Rob posted up a car with a built 7.x motor, which the motor alone costs more then the entire 951 build (including the car)...
Anything can be fast - with enough money. The point LSx guys are always touting is how fast/reliable they are for the $. The funny part is that when someone challenges either point then its a "stupid argument".
I posted a comparison of a budget build 951, to a supercharged LS2. Both cars are similar in weight, both cars run low 120mph at our local track.
Rob posted up a car with a built 7.x motor, which the motor alone costs more then the entire 951 build (including the car)...
Anything can be fast - with enough money. The point LSx guys are always touting is how fast/reliable they are for the $. The funny part is that when someone challenges either point then its a "stupid argument".
You could buy an LS1, right now, for $3000, and put $1k in mods into it (cam, headers, air intake, tune) and make 400rwhp without skipping a beat. If you can come up with a more reliable, cheaper way to make 400hp starting from nothing--then by all means....
I will NEVER put a V8 in my 951. Nothing against those who do. Just not my thing. If I go V8 I will just go buy a Vette. My brother has an LS2 and I love that car. My plan is to keep pushing to solve the issues. I guess that is why I love my 951. It has challenges but also amazing potential and character. I love a good challenge especially if I believe it will pay off in a big way. But to each his own. 
My brothers LS2 with the Rockies in the background:
My brothers LS2 with the Rockies in the background:
08-29-2012, 07:02 PM
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08-29-2012, 07:40 PM
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Just pointing out that it was turbo and a friggin tow rig!
Forced induction, even on that diesel, helped that truck at this altitude!
Just funny to post a video of a car losing! Especially to a turbo powered vehicle (which is what you are arguing against).
08-29-2012, 07:55 PM
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08-29-2012, 08:04 PM
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08-29-2012, 08:55 PM
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Lets see the proof then of this 600rwhp S2.
Otherwise all I see is these:
https://rennlist.com/forums/4424465-post99.html
~120mph near sea-level.
Otherwise all I see is these:
https://rennlist.com/forums/4424465-post99.html
~120mph near sea-level.
08-29-2012, 09:04 PM
#101
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Why bother with this guy. He is full of ****. Always has been. Never any proof of anything other than a photo of a nitrous bottle stuffed inside a dismantled car and some time slips. You're wasting your time.
08-29-2012, 09:12 PM
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Also, my best was 10.95 @134.67 not 137.. my bad been awhile since I ran it with the S2 motor. (early 2008) The link to the timeslip is down but I might be able to find it at my house.
08-29-2012, 10:23 PM
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Both parties realize that there is no point in arguing as neither side will ever win? This is all very childish and sad.
Yes, you can get 400hp from a turbo 4cyl.
Yes, you can get 400hp from an LSx swap.
Yes, they both cost money.
Yes, they both have good and bad things about them.
No, arguing (again) for 5+ pages will not solve anything.
Yes, I'm starting to like Pelican forums better.
Can we all just call it a draw, and let Cyclone decide now? Ultimately, if cyclone want's to put an LSx engine, it's what he will have to live with. Either way (4cyl vs v8), he will have a really bad *** car. It feels like WW3 in here.
If anyone has a v8 swapped 944, please let cyclone ride so he can get first hand experience before he chooses. Also note:
Yes, you can get 400hp from a turbo 4cyl.
Yes, you can get 400hp from an LSx swap.
Yes, they both cost money.
Yes, they both have good and bad things about them.
No, arguing (again) for 5+ pages will not solve anything.
Yes, I'm starting to like Pelican forums better.
Can we all just call it a draw, and let Cyclone decide now? Ultimately, if cyclone want's to put an LSx engine, it's what he will have to live with. Either way (4cyl vs v8), he will have a really bad *** car. It feels like WW3 in here.
If anyone has a v8 swapped 944, please let cyclone ride so he can get first hand experience before he chooses. Also note:
Originally Posted by Cyclone
"The reason I am interested in the v8 is not because I think its better than the 4cylinder, I'm interested in the longevity and the removal of electronics."
"Even if I do put a v8 in I would still want to keep the 951 motor and to a v8 swap that I can still swap back easily for the simple fact of being able to go original. "
"Even if I do put a v8 in I would still want to keep the 951 motor and to a v8 swap that I can still swap back easily for the simple fact of being able to go original. "
08-30-2012, 12:52 AM
#104
I'll build a full swap kit for another 951 with blown engine lol.
The point is almost moot, but for the majority of the V8 swappers it all comes down to the CFR rule and IMO my 948 breaks that rule for what it is and what it does DAILY. 37,600 miles to be exact and I can still out run cars that cost 10x as much as what I have done to mine. That new lotus is quick but not 948 quick.
The point is almost moot, but for the majority of the V8 swappers it all comes down to the CFR rule and IMO my 948 breaks that rule for what it is and what it does DAILY. 37,600 miles to be exact and I can still out run cars that cost 10x as much as what I have done to mine. That new lotus is quick but not 948 quick.
08-30-2012, 01:09 AM
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I'll build a full swap kit for another 951 with blown engine lol.
The point is almost moot, but for the majority of the V8 swappers it all comes down to the CFR rule and IMO my 948 breaks that rule for what it is and what it does DAILY. 37,600 miles to be exact and I can still out run cars that cost 10x as much as what I have done to mine. That new lotus is quick but not 948 quick.
The point is almost moot, but for the majority of the V8 swappers it all comes down to the CFR rule and IMO my 948 breaks that rule for what it is and what it does DAILY. 37,600 miles to be exact and I can still out run cars that cost 10x as much as what I have done to mine. That new lotus is quick but not 948 quick.
Do it!!! It would be cool and I'm sure it'd run good.
I have a little catching up to do in the DD mileage dept. I'm at just over 12k.
But you have some catching up to do in the drag racing dept. I have now over 70 passes on this combo this year. Tonight it was a consistent 11 second bracket car. 7 passes all in the 11's.
I'm pretty happy considering it cost me $3800.