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Old 09-28-2012, 06:00 PM
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The everyday driveability will improve drastically, including more power and quicker throttle response. It will allow for normal driving 1 gear higher and require fewer downshifts. It is not just about a wide open dyno improvement, Rouge makes real world differences in performance and fuel consumption should decrease. I think you all will be amazed how awake your cars will feel.
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Sure. Here is the "no-smoothing" plot... Not really much different than the earlier dyno plot. It does show that the MAF is a little "smoother" than the AFM:
Looking good. Your M-tune for my Turbo will be here in a few days and can't wait. One thing i was wondering about the N-Tune...and this may be overreaching a bit but.....given what you have done so far...how hard would it be to do this for a car with a 968 engine? Forgive the slight direction change.
Old 09-28-2012, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
UPDATE!
Ok, I finally made the dyno. I am quite pleased with the results. FYI, the only mod to my 85NA is the N-Tune, everything else is completely stock down to the cast-iron headers. The dyno really shows what I've felt all along - great gains at every RPM!
Without further ado:
now that's impressive...big gains.
Old 09-28-2012, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Ha, well, the gains average typically 6-10% across the board, with a total average gain of 8%. And this is on a bone-stock car - a car that already has some breathing mods, such as exhaust or a more aggressive camshaft has the potential for even better gains.

What the dyno doesn't show is the non-wide-open-throttle situations, like normal daily-driving, there is much more power and torque which really improves normal driving.

Additionally, the MAF has room to grow with you - so if you wind up doing some more breathing mods, the MAF will see the increase in airflow and it will adjust fueling/timing appropriately.

Furthermore, the ignition timing has been changed to be true-3D tables. This will allow the DME to adjust for different weather & altitudes, and any other engine mods you do in the future.

Finally, it has the capability of working with my upcoming Tuning & Logging setup. So, if you want full near-standalone tune-ability without the hassle, this kit is the first step.
Would love to see on video your car with no cat and N-Tune vs. a PCA guys/girls car in a few 1/4 mile and full mile and a few laps on a track. Maybe not scientific but might be good for real world visual reference.
Old 09-29-2012, 05:51 PM
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This is great news! I assume there will be similar gains for an S2. Are we towards the bottom of the list?
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Originally Posted by AlphaOmegaPower
Would love to see on video your car with no cat and N-Tune vs. a PCA guys/girls car in a few 1/4 mile and full mile and a few laps on a track. Maybe not scientific but might be good for real world visual reference.
Good idea... I will see what I can do.

Originally Posted by Justin S2
This is great news! I assume there will be similar gains for an S2. Are we towards the bottom of the list?
Yes, I expect to see similar percentage gains for the S2...
I wouldn't say you are at the bottom of the list, I have started the MAF conversion process for the S/S2, but I do have a couple of things for the 944NA/951 to finish first.
Old 09-29-2012, 08:45 PM
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Josh, you can add me to the list as well. Have been following since I bought my '83 NA ('85.5 DME / AFM installed ). Will I need other wiring added for my early car, or is it only the DME that I need?
Old 09-29-2012, 08:57 PM
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James,
My NA is an early car too. The only thing you will need for the N-Tune is a late DME.
Old 09-30-2012, 01:00 AM
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When do we start placing orders?
Old 09-30-2012, 01:17 AM
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I am updating the website now, and I will put it up for sale this upcoming week.
Old 09-30-2012, 02:46 AM
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SO STOKED!!!!!!!
Old 09-30-2012, 01:02 PM
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That is great! I will definitely get the S2 one once it is available. I hope I will be done with my 3.0L conversion by that time
Old 09-30-2012, 01:55 PM
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Hope installation is easy! I've been so hyped about your product. The afm have been killing my driving experience and those dynos are very impressive
Old 09-30-2012, 09:54 PM
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High level of interest in this!
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I can't ****ing wait!!!! Have you dyno'd the car with the cat delete yet?


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