C40 Oil Discussion
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I just mean that I don't think Porsche is adjusting the owners manuals based on supply chain issues. They list the required rating, in this case C40, and weight. I don't think that's adjusted based on Mobile 1's production limitations.
I still don't understand why the manual changed for 2022 and eliminated the 5W-40 as an option. Naturally, if you are in climates above -15*F, using 5W instead of 0W shouldn't make a difference.
I see that NHTS list and others don't include Motul yet. I think it's new. Thanks for posting that info @TXshaggy . For some reason it won't search on my VIN. But I'm having internet issues today. Time to call cable and threaten to switch to Verizon, which I think I may do at this point!
I still don't understand why the manual changed for 2022 and eliminated the 5W-40 as an option. Naturally, if you are in climates above -15*F, using 5W instead of 0W shouldn't make a difference.
I see that NHTS list and others don't include Motul yet. I think it's new. Thanks for posting that info @TXshaggy . For some reason it won't search on my VIN. But I'm having internet issues today. Time to call cable and threaten to switch to Verizon, which I think I may do at this point!
I see that Motul lists lists the C40 spec in the technical data sheet:
Last edited by Westcoast; 03-17-2022 at 03:15 PM.
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Yup, I have Motul in the garage. It's a quality brand for sure, all the Porsche race shops I know recommend all Motul fluids, so I'm comfortable at this point. I still would love to know why the change at Porsche from 0W to 5W oils in 2022.
All this oil talk, sometimes I wonder if the neighbor who leases his/her Porsche every 3 years and just drives it like, oh, a car, without so much as a thought about water spots, engine warm ups, road salt, let alone oil, if that person is happier. I even know a few with IMS bearings in their engines. I don't have the heart to tell them of the ticking time bomb that they are unaware of! (Meanwhile, some 92-98% of IMS bearings never had a problem, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN and they should be worried like us! hehehe)
All this oil talk, sometimes I wonder if the neighbor who leases his/her Porsche every 3 years and just drives it like, oh, a car, without so much as a thought about water spots, engine warm ups, road salt, let alone oil, if that person is happier. I even know a few with IMS bearings in their engines. I don't have the heart to tell them of the ticking time bomb that they are unaware of! (Meanwhile, some 92-98% of IMS bearings never had a problem, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN and they should be worried like us! hehehe)
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StilettoPat (03-17-2022)
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Wow, after reading in my owner's manual...
...for my 2019 Cayenne Turbo that 'C40' oil is 'required' for this TT 4.0L 541HP engine, I started looking.. (Seems my 'A40' Castrol Edge Euro Car SAE 5W-40 A3/B4 is NOT C40-approved.. Too bad I have lots of it; I'll feed the Cayman with it. 😃 )
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Yup, I have Motul in the garage. It's a quality brand for sure, all the Porsche race shops I know recommend all Motul fluids, so I'm comfortable at this point. I still would love to know why the change at Porsche from 0W to 5W oils in 2022.
All this oil talk, sometimes I wonder if the neighbor who leases his/her Porsche every 3 years and just drives it like, oh, a car, without so much as a thought about water spots, engine warm ups, road salt, let alone oil, if that person is happier. I even know a few with IMS bearings in their engines. I don't have the heart to tell them of the ticking time bomb that they are unaware of! (Meanwhile, some 92-98% of IMS bearings never had a problem, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN and they should be worried like us! hehehe)
All this oil talk, sometimes I wonder if the neighbor who leases his/her Porsche every 3 years and just drives it like, oh, a car, without so much as a thought about water spots, engine warm ups, road salt, let alone oil, if that person is happier. I even know a few with IMS bearings in their engines. I don't have the heart to tell them of the ticking time bomb that they are unaware of! (Meanwhile, some 92-98% of IMS bearings never had a problem, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN and they should be worried like us! hehehe)
As the saying goes; "Ignorance is Bliss!"
Sometimes I wish I could be that way, I even try sometimes, tear open the cookie boxes from the wrong end, rip open the potato bag with abandon... then it strikes! FUD
And I go back to being my old self, OCD about warming the car before I drive (only on salt free roads of course), washing the car when I return and yes, wondering about the C40 and weight specs for the oil in my Spyder.
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(PS Don't warm up the car idling for more than a minute or so. Get in and drive (gently) it to warm it up. Idling to warm up is not good, especially for modern engines that can adjust A/F ratios on the fly. Idling too much splashes too much fuel into the combustion chamber which washes the walls which causes bore scoring. Just drive it.)
(See, my OCD couldn't let that comment slide.)
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I see that NHTS list and others don't include Motul yet. I think it's new. Thanks for posting that info @TXshaggy . For some reason it won't search on my VIN. But I'm having internet issues today. Time to call cable and threaten to switch to Verizon, which I think I may do at this point!
Think entering VIN in the NHTSA Recall website is looking for recall info attached to you VIN…nothing probably good.
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Nooooooooo
(PS Don't warm up the car idling for more than a minute or so. Get in and drive (gently) it to warm it up. Idling to warm up is not good, especially for modern engines that can adjust A/F ratios on the fly. Idling too much splashes too much fuel into the combustion chamber which washes the walls which causes bore scoring. Just drive it.)
(See, my OCD couldn't let that comment slide.)
(PS Don't warm up the car idling for more than a minute or so. Get in and drive (gently) it to warm it up. Idling to warm up is not good, especially for modern engines that can adjust A/F ratios on the fly. Idling too much splashes too much fuel into the combustion chamber which washes the walls which causes bore scoring. Just drive it.)
(See, my OCD couldn't let that comment slide.)
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AdamIsAdam (03-17-2022)
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Found some M1 ESP X3 (edit)0W-40 at https://www.evolubesupply.com/mobil-...bottle-124798/
Two 6-packs were $116.44 delivered or $9.70 per quart.. I guess I'll be an M1 guy again! 😃
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OK; thx.
Found some M1 ESP X3 5W-40 at https://www.evolubesupply.com/mobil-...bottle-124798/
Two 6-packs were $116.44 delivered or $9.70 per quart.. I guess I'll be an M1 guy again! 😃
Found some M1 ESP X3 5W-40 at https://www.evolubesupply.com/mobil-...bottle-124798/
Two 6-packs were $116.44 delivered or $9.70 per quart.. I guess I'll be an M1 guy again! 😃
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(PS Don't warm up the car idling for more than a minute or so. Get in and drive (gently) it to warm it up. Idling to warm up is not good, especially for modern engines that can adjust A/F ratios on the fly. Idling too much splashes too much fuel into the combustion chamber which washes the walls which causes bore scoring. Just drive it.) (See, my OCD couldn't let that comment slide.)
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Not saying it is related in anyway, but maybe the 2022 change had something to do with the investigation from the 2021 CAM RON recall and stop sell? Just throwing out ideas.
We know that the PCCB brake pads (and probably the steel pads as well) were quietly changed for 2022. I am sure there are a bunch of 2022 changes that happened that were not publicized.
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Not saying it is related in anyway, but maybe the 2022 change had something to do with the investigation from the 2021 CAM RON recall and stop sell? Just throwing out ideas.
We know that the PCCB brake pads (and probably the steel pads as well) were quietly changed for 2022. I am sure there are a bunch of 2022 changes that happened that were not publicized.
We know that the PCCB brake pads (and probably the steel pads as well) were quietly changed for 2022. I am sure there are a bunch of 2022 changes that happened that were not publicized.
Are you trying to Con Rod here? IF yes then I doubt oil would have anything to do with it.