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Old 03-14-2022, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
I went to the Autozone.com and set my location in OK and got X3 Mobile 1, but I think that's the A40 formula:
https://www.autozone.com/motor-oil-a...rt/1177215_0_0

Mobile 1 site search engine doesn't even show C40, it suggests this oil for our cars:
https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/...7724/16549/0/0

I understand your skepticism. When I went to my local Porsche dealer they gave me the A40 spec. I turned it away and went to Audi.

What I saw at Autozone was a Mobile 1 ESP display with quarts of ESP, ESP X2, and ESP X3 displayed. I turned the quart of ESP X3 around to check for the C40 spec to confirm. I already had a spare quart of the Audi-branded oil in the car, so I did not buy any. What struck me about it was the packaging was slightly different than pictures I had seen on line. The “X3” was a little bigger and was not italicized.

I will swing by tomorrow to take a picture. I hope it does not prove to be an unsubstantiated sighting of a mythical creature but I am pretty certain of what I saw
Old 03-14-2022, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
The C40 is also different in it's ability to fight low speed ignition detonation. From what I read, it's more important to use C40 than to get the right weight.
How does motor oil affect the combustion process?
Old 03-14-2022, 06:46 AM
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Oil coats the cylinder walls, and modern piston rings are looser to increase mpg, so a little oil is present in combustion chamber.
Old 03-14-2022, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Tief Lernen
How does motor oil affect the combustion process?
The answer starts with understanding the origin of blow-by gases:

https://www.mishimoto.com/engineerin...at-is-blow-by/

and with regulatory requirements to route blow-by gases into the engine’s intake system.

So, some engine oil is always burned. The amount of burned oil will depend upon the effectiveness of an engine’s air/oil separation system plumbed between the crank case and intake.

Minimizing blow-by with very good piston ring sealing is the first step in reducing the volume of blow-by gas which then relieves stress on the separation system and results in less oil reintroduced to the intake system.

Burning motor oil is very bad for emissions testing, efficiency, and power. Reducing blow-by via better ring sealing and increasing the effectiveness of engine air/oil separating systems has been a sink for a lot of ICE development dollars for a very long time. It’s not easy to do and also keep bean counters happy.
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Originally Posted by Bill Mitchell
Please forgive my cynicism but I seriously doubt it is porsche C40 spec. I've seen too many claims it is that turn out to be C40 when in reality it's A40. I checked Autozone's website and they don't have any Mobil 1 oil that fits my GTS 4.0. Can you post a pic of the container showing the C40 spec on it?
My lovely wife selflessly dropped by our local Autozone this morning (a place she has probably never been) to get me these pictures. You are right that C40 spec oil does not show up on their website, but I can confirm the sighting on their shelves...

Store Display

ESP X3 front

ESP X3 back showing C40 spec

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Originally Posted by Boxtop
My lovely wife selflessly dropped by our local Autozone this morning (a place she has probably never been) to get me these pictures. You are right that C40 spec oil does not show up on their website, but I can confirm the sighting on their shelves...

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ESP X3 front

ESP X3 back showing C40 spec
Tell you wife, thanks for the picture proof...

Now, take her out for dinner!
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Never a doubt! 🤣 Great to see it in stores. Hopefully this means my dealer will actually have it for my first service in a couple months.
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Old 03-14-2022, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxtop
My lovely wife selflessly dropped by our local Autozone this morning (a place she has probably never been) to get me these pictures.
THAT'S FUNNY. She's a keeper for sure. 👍
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Old 03-14-2022, 03:10 PM
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Thanks for the tip - I found a few quarts at local Autozone too. They don't have them inventoried correctly, so you have to check in person.
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Here is a link:https://www.autozone.com/motor-oil-a...s/1177194_0_0?

Originally Posted by GrantG
Thanks for the tip - I found a few quarts at local Autozone too. They don't have them inventoried correctly, so you have to check in person.
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Originally Posted by planolemans
Link showed OW-30 for me
Old 03-14-2022, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric5280
Link showed OW-30 for me
Yeah, I don't think you can rely on the electronic info even if it was the correct link. They have the bottles of X3 oil entered into the store computers incorrectly. When they scanned mine, it came up empty in the computer.
Old 03-15-2022, 06:26 AM
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This is really a milestone event, dealer only stock for as long as this oil has been out until now. I'm convinced, thanks for the confirmation and the discovery.
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Old 03-15-2022, 08:40 PM
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Is there a difference between "Mobil 1 ESP X3" and "Mobil 1 ESP" without "X3" designation? I've seen both bottles.

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Originally Posted by dave2020
Is there a difference between "Mobil 1 ESP X3" and "Mobil 1 ESP" without "X3" designation? I've seen both bottles.
Yes, only the X3 is Porsche C40 rated (look on back side of bottle)

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