Notices
718 GTS 4.0/GT4/GT4RS/Spyder/25th Anniversary Discussions about the 718 version of the GT4RS, GTS 4.0, GT4, Spyder and 25th Anniversary Boxster
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By: Cobb

C40 Oil Discussion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-30-2020, 01:06 PM
  #151  
Westcoast
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Westcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 9,069
Received 4,571 Likes on 2,676 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mercuriell
Back pressure will be reduced - whether this is important is doubtful unless your engine needs a warranty claim ...

Great thread though !
Given that back pressure is reduced, you seem to be alluding to some correlation to possible warranty concerns because of it?

Last edited by Westcoast; 12-30-2020 at 01:07 PM.
Old 12-30-2020, 06:30 PM
  #152  
Mercuriell
Burning Brakes
 
Mercuriell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Australia
Posts: 876
Received 490 Likes on 303 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Westcoast
Given that back pressure is reduced, you seem to be alluding to some correlation to possible warranty concerns because of it?
I doubt if there are any real .mechanical issues but if there was an unrelated engine issue, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that P dealership would use it try to wriggle out of warranty claims
Old 12-30-2020, 06:45 PM
  #153  
KBS911
Rennlist Member
 
KBS911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,947
Received 131 Likes on 79 Posts
Default

900 miles on my new GT4. Ready for fluid changes. C-40 Spec oil is fairly hard to get, but available. It is indeed a different spec in order to cope with the GPF filters, although I wonder if the aftermarket OAP pipes would negate the need.

Old 12-30-2020, 08:58 PM
  #154  
Westcoast
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Westcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 9,069
Received 4,571 Likes on 2,676 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by KBS911
900 miles on my new GT4. Ready for fluid changes. C-40 Spec oil is fairly hard to get, but available. It is indeed a different spec in order to cope with the GPF filters, although I wonder if the aftermarket OAP pipes would negate the need.
Not if you want to be able to say that you used the warranty specified oil...


The following users liked this post:
KBS911 (12-31-2020)
Old 12-30-2020, 08:59 PM
  #155  
Westcoast
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Westcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 9,069
Received 4,571 Likes on 2,676 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mercuriell
I doubt if there are any real .mechanical issues but if there was an unrelated engine issue, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that P dealership would use it try to wriggle out of warranty claims
So from this then, no exhaust mods for you then?
Old 12-30-2020, 09:12 PM
  #156  
Bill Mitchell
Pro
 
Bill Mitchell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Fort Payne, AL
Posts: 707
Received 419 Likes on 205 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Westcoast
Not if you want to be able to say that you used the warranty specified oil...

Agree, but were you to use A40 oil, and were you to have an engine related warranty claim, what are the odds the dealer would pull a sample to determine if correct oil was in the crankcase? I'm betting pretty long.
Old 12-30-2020, 09:36 PM
  #157  
Westcoast
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Westcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 9,069
Received 4,571 Likes on 2,676 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Mitchell
Agree, but were you to use A40 oil, and were you to have an engine related warranty claim, what are the odds the dealer would pull a sample to determine if correct oil was in the crankcase? I'm betting pretty long.
Possibly, but as I have said all along, the C40 spec is not just about the GPF, it is all emission components on the engine and includes a better formulation to prevent LSPI; low speed pre-ignition... personally I will only use C40 spec oil in my 4.0l engine.

The scarcity of this oil should improve as more people ask for it specifically.
Old 12-30-2020, 10:14 PM
  #158  
Westcoast
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Westcoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Posts: 9,069
Received 4,571 Likes on 2,676 Posts
Default Anyone with experience using Liqui Moly?

This oil is an approved weight and is C40 spec, curious if anyone is using Liqui Moly oil in the Porsche?




Last edited by Westcoast; 12-31-2020 at 10:43 AM. Reason: spelling...
The following users liked this post:
FCP Euro (01-08-2021)
Old 12-30-2020, 11:23 PM
  #159  
TurboCup87
Rennlist Member
 
TurboCup87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: The Ville
Posts: 2,319
Received 53 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

I used the Motul 8100. I’m a very long term Mobil 1 user, but couldn’t find any in October, when I did my first oil change.

Last edited by TurboCup87; 12-30-2020 at 11:28 PM.
Old 12-30-2020, 11:50 PM
  #160  
Jim Rockford
Burning Brakes
 
Jim Rockford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Ontario
Posts: 801
Received 492 Likes on 265 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Westcoast
This oil is the correct weight and is C40 spec, curious if anyone is using Liquid Moly oil in the Porsche?



I used Liqui Moly ‘Synthoil’ exclusively in my 987 S. I can’t say with certainty that it worked any sort of magic but I always felt that the car seemed to like that oil. I am planning on continuing on with Liqui Moly in the 718. If even for the engineering alone that’s put into the jug (articulating pour spout and handle placement).

Last edited by Jim Rockford; 12-30-2020 at 11:54 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Westcoast (12-31-2020)
Old 12-31-2020, 01:23 PM
  #161  
steve9
Instructor
 
steve9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Antrim, Northern Ireland
Posts: 196
Received 76 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Mitchell
Agree, but were you to use A40 oil, and were you to have an engine related warranty claim, what are the odds the dealer would pull a sample to determine if correct oil was in the crankcase? I'm betting pretty long.
I agree to use the specified oil and maintain records.

Regarding pulling a sample, how would you distinguish a C40 from an A40 used oil analysis?
Old 12-31-2020, 01:26 PM
  #162  
mjw930
Rennlist Member
 
mjw930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 944
Received 378 Likes on 209 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by steve9
how would you distinguish a C40 from an A40 used oil analysis?
Independently that would be impossible to determine. The only way to be able to differentiate would be to have unused and subsequent used samples of each and compare the analysis side by side to see if there was any statistically significant differences.
Old 12-31-2020, 03:33 PM
  #163  
hmintz
Advanced
 
hmintz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 48 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

The parts manager at my dealership insisted that the quart of Mobil 1 I bought from him yesterday was the correct. C40 oil. He is wrong. I didn't argue but this is an unknown issue at this major dealership and probably most others. I had my first (free) oil change done there and unless they are using C40 from a special drum in the service area I have a engine full of dealer-installed A40 as does every other new Porsche in the service bay. PCNA must know of this and they are apparently unconcerned, as am I.

Howard
Old 12-31-2020, 06:09 PM
  #164  
Mercuriell
Burning Brakes
 
Mercuriell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Australia
Posts: 876
Received 490 Likes on 303 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Westcoast
So from this then, no exhaust mods for you then?
Honestly - in stock GT4 form, I’m as happy as a pig in muck. Love the sound - with the engine just behind your shoulders imho exhaust mods don’t do much for the driver, more for onlookers imho.
Old 12-31-2020, 08:41 PM
  #165  
sobiloff
Racer
 
sobiloff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Reno, NV (USA)
Posts: 465
Received 208 Likes on 133 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mjw930
Independently that would be impossible to determine. The only way to be able to differentiate would be to have unused and subsequent used samples of each and compare the analysis side by side to see if there was any statistically significant differences.
Sorry, I doubt that. There are almost certainly differences in the add pack that are unique to the C40 formulation that would be easy to determine through analysis. Most additives are not consumed during the interval.


Quick Reply: C40 Oil Discussion



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 02:21 AM.