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Old 10-18-2020, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
Plus, I expect a more powerful version will be released midway next year.
What is the basis for this expectation?

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[QUOTE=excelsiorz;16972387]I have a number of cars so I am in no hurry. Plus, I expect a more powerful version will be released midway next year.[QUOTE]

You think they’re going to make an RS version Spyder?

The only more powerful version of these cars for the next three years will be the GT4 RS, which unfortunately won’t meet your 10 percent discount requirement either.
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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.

Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.

Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.

I actually like the flat/matte finish of the air intakes and front spoiler. While not as nice as carbon fiber (which is A LOT more to replace), I think it looks much more classy than glossy black, which to me looks cheap and shows dirt much easier.

I do agree however with the door handles. I would gladly give up a 1 or 2 lbs to have actual door handles, which look much nicer, but that's pretty subjective. Some like the straps as its unique to the GT cars.

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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Originally Posted by excelsiorz
I have a number of cars so I am in no hurry. Plus, I expect a more powerful version will be released midway next year.
You think they’re going to make an RS version Spyder?

The only more powerful version of these cars for the next three years will be the GT4 RS, which unfortunately won’t meet your 10 percent discount requirement either.
Like what was said before, I don’t think he’s in any danger of buying a new Porsche in the near future.
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:19 PM
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Like what was said before, I don’t think he’s in any danger of buying a new Porsche in the near future.
Well, we’ll just have to weight and see...lol.
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:41 PM
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OP how are the offers coming along. Its been 9 days...6 pages of speculation so far. Lets hear what the dealer said


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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
As another aside, I was in the Lexus LC500 Convertible a few weeks ago. Cost less than the Spyder and yet material quality and fit and finish were light years ahead of the Spyder. Well equipped Spyders are around $120k and at that price point Buyers are expecting better materials....which perhaps explains why the dealer I know still....month after month, has 3 Spyders and 4 Caymen.

This thread has made me realize that, were it not for the manual gearbox issue, I think hands down I'd be exploring the new Z06 Convertible with its Ferrari like 600 hp normally aspirated flat plane crank as it will be the same money as Spyder.
My friend has a LC500 coupe. No doubt interior material seems nicer. 2 little seats at the back you can use in a pinch also.

Porsche has that no nonsense German interior. None of the curves in the Lexus and trick moving gauge.

I personally would spend the money on the chassis and drive, not that much emphasis on interior design. I guess that’s why I am on here.

Spyder is a NA, MR, manual, open top car. Not many comparables out there.
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Old 10-19-2020, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
What is the basis for this expectation?
Well if the Cayman could have 500HP and the GTS already has nearly the same power as the Spyder, seems only logical Porsche would bump the Spyder HP otherwise the GTS starts to make it redundant....as some respectable journalists have pointed out. Plus, does Porsche want a less expensive Z06 convertible utterly crushing the Spyder?

The Boxster finally has credibility now that it shares its components with the GT4. But its gearbox is too long in the lower gears and its power is simply insufficient for a car costing over $100k with typical upgrades.

Plus, the M4 will have 474 hp manual six speed gearbox or a 503 hp dual clutch. Prices for the M4 manual start at just over $70k. 503 hp is under $80k.
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Originally Posted by Rennolazine
OP how are the offers coming along. Its been 9 days...6 pages of speculation so far. Lets hear what the dealer said
It's only been a few days since I made the offer and as I said, their cars have been sitting there now for months. So who knows, it might be a month or three before I get the call. (If at all)
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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
Well if the Cayman could have 500HP and the GTS already has nearly the same power as the Spyder, seems only logical Porsche would bump the Spyder HP otherwise the GTS starts to make it redundant....as some respectable journalists have pointed out. Plus, does Porsche want a less expensive Z06 convertible utterly crushing the Spyder?

The Boxster finally has credibility now that it shares its components with the GT4. But its gearbox is too long in the lower gears and its power is simply insufficient for a car costing over $100k with typical upgrades.

Plus, the M4 will have 474 hp manual six speed gearbox or a 503 hp dual clutch. Prices for the M4 manual start at just over $70k. 503 hp is under $80k.
Ok, so no basis. All of the above has been business as usual ever since the first Boxster, Cayman, or Spyder were born, nothing different now. Both the z06 and the M4 will weigh 400+lb more and feel nothing like a Porsche. Some people “get” Porsche, most don’t, and that’s ok.


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Old 10-19-2020, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
Well if the Cayman could have 500HP and the GTS already has nearly the same power as the Spyder, seems only logical Porsche would bump the Spyder HP otherwise the GTS starts to make it redundant....as some respectable journalists have pointed out. Plus, does Porsche want a less expensive Z06 convertible utterly crushing the Spyder?

The Boxster finally has credibility now that it shares its components with the GT4. But its gearbox is too long in the lower gears and its power is simply insufficient for a car costing over $100k with typical upgrades.

Plus, the M4 will have 474 hp manual six speed gearbox or a 503 hp dual clutch. Prices for the M4 manual start at just over $70k. 503 hp is under $80k.
... these cars aren’t comparable driving experiences. Cross shopping a Spyder, Z06, and M4 makes it sound like you either haven’t driven them or don’t actually know what you want. Maybe both ? You seem fixated on the hp number. The M4 is a turbo that weighs 300# pounds more with considerably worse steering and handling. The automatic C8 can only barely nose out a manual cayman on track despite more hp and torque. If you want more boost, cool, get it. If you think an M4 is going to carve like a Spyder, you should actually get on the road.
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I think we should all stop feeding the troll.

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Originally Posted by excelsiorz
Well if the Cayman could have 500HP and the GTS already has nearly the same power as the Spyder, seems only logical Porsche would bump the Spyder HP otherwise the GTS starts to make it redundant....as some respectable journalists have pointed out. Plus, does Porsche want a less expensive Z06 convertible utterly crushing the Spyder?

The Boxster finally has credibility now that it shares its components with the GT4. But its gearbox is too long in the lower gears and its power is simply insufficient for a car costing over $100k with typical upgrades.

Plus, the M4 will have 474 hp manual six speed gearbox or a 503 hp dual clutch. Prices for the M4 manual start at just over $70k. 503 hp is under $80k.
Given all the nonsense above, I’m convinced you’re just trolling at this point, and probably were from the start.
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Originally Posted by mjw930
Like what was said before, I don’t think he’s in any danger of buying a new Porsche in the near future.
I agree. I don’t think he ever really was.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think we should all stop feeding the troll.

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I recognize you! ipsedixit from Fchat! so I guess there is also noone1 in Rennlist, huh? oh boy.
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