Dealer Invoice Pricing For Boxster Spyder and dealing below MSRP
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Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
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Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
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Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
As for the less interior options, this is a GT car so Porsche has made a VERY healthy business model of charging more for less for decades. Yes, you can argue that you're paying more for a more prestigious model in their 718 hierarchy but this is a GT car and not a regular sporty/luxurious variant of the base or S or even GTS variant. You either accept the lesser content and enjoy the GT engineering or you buy the GTS. Keep in mind the lesser interior content/options is replaced with the engineering that took place to make a bespoke GT4/Spyder engine, develop unique front and rear bumpers, develop full underbody paneling, develop a functional rear diffusor, develop rear decklid/convertible for Spyder, reengineer GT3 suspension and brakes for GT4/Spyder, develop functional wing on GT4, and other things that I'm sure I missed.
Some people like the fabric pulls and others find them dumb. Do they save weight? I guess they do. Enough to make a difference on track? Not for you and I. Only people with last names such as Schmacher or Hamilton. Why would Porsche change them then? Maybe just to **** you off or maybe because it's part of their marketing to separate these cars from their regular variants....and to charge more for people that want to change the colors though CXX.
As for your desire to get 10%-12% off, I think you will be laughed out of the dealership but stranger things have happened. I can only say good luck and if you actually find a dealer that is willing to entertain your offer, I would be very skeptical of the condition of the car. MSRP is easy to get and maybe $500 off or just maybe even $1000 off would be a tough catch and I would assume this would only even be entertained on a car that was heavily optioned and orphaned and has been sitting on the dealer lot all through winter with nobody even checking out the car for months.
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I would be very skeptical of the condition of the car. MSRP is easy to get and maybe $500 off or just maybe even $1000 off would be a tough catch and I would assume this would only even be entertained on a car that was heavily optioned and orphaned and has been sitting on the dealer lot all through winter with nobody even checking out the car for months.
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I definitely prefer the unpainted plastic lip out front given how low the car is. Having had a carbon fibre lip and a painted lip before, my butt doesn't clinch (as much) when I approach a bump or entry that has a steeper angle in the GT4. I know I'll likely scrape, but the replacement cost is only a few hundred vs. over a thousand for a new lip and/or paint. I was always envious of the GT cars having the plastic lip since you could treat it like a consumable rather than a hazard. Even the GT3/GT3 RS/GT2 RS have plastic front lips, not just the GT4/Spyder.
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Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
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GT cars can be discounted like other cars if the market is right
the 981 Spyder did not sell well initially as they were shadowed by the GT4 and were not considered by many true GT cars
I got 9.3 % off my ordered car and on top of that free shipping enclosed around 800 dollars
the car was 93xxx and paid 87k
after the hype of the gt4 fizzled , people started focusing on the 981 Spyder and their prices started going up
I sold my car to the same dealer for 88 k 2 years later including the shipping and they sold it for 5 k above sticker
It seems now the opposite is happening and the 718 Spyder is over shadowing the 718 GT4 ...
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Highly unlikely. The cost of floor planning a car right now is basically zero. Dealers aren’t going to dump GT cars for zero profit anytime soon. My guess is, if Covid hammers us over the next few months, you’ll start seeing a little discounting, but not 10 percent. Porsche will just cut production before they let inventory build up at dealers or see pricing weakness. It’s bad for business, which is why Porsche dealers will often wholesale out cars they can’t sell, rather than sell them at a steep discount to a customer.
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That is not true
GT cars can be discounted like other cars if the market is right
the 981 Spyder did not sell well initially as they were shadowed by the GT4 and were not considered by many true GT cars
I got 9.3 % off my ordered car and on top of that free shipping enclosed around 800 dollars
the car was 93xxx and paid 87k
after the hype of the gt4 fizzled , people started focusing on the 981 Spyder and their prices started going up
I sold my car to the same dealer for 88 k 2 years later including the shipping and they sold it for 5 k above sticker
It seems now the opposite is happening and the 718 Spyder is over shadowing the 718 GT4 ...
GT cars can be discounted like other cars if the market is right
the 981 Spyder did not sell well initially as they were shadowed by the GT4 and were not considered by many true GT cars
I got 9.3 % off my ordered car and on top of that free shipping enclosed around 800 dollars
the car was 93xxx and paid 87k
after the hype of the gt4 fizzled , people started focusing on the 981 Spyder and their prices started going up
I sold my car to the same dealer for 88 k 2 years later including the shipping and they sold it for 5 k above sticker
It seems now the opposite is happening and the 718 Spyder is over shadowing the 718 GT4 ...
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Another issue I have: Paying well over $100k for a car (Spyder) that has nasty plastic air intakes and a very plastic looking front spoiler. At this price point they should use a better material more nicely finished. So much of the car looks so right now and Porsche drops the ball with the cheap plastics.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
Another bone-head move is you have more interior options with lesser 718s. Having lived with Alcantara interiors I personally prefer leather and would really appreciate the option of selecting a full red/black leather interior.
Last gripe, the fabric door pulls are such a joke. The regular door handles are nicely designed. How something feels to the hand is a critical reflection of quality. Cheap fabric pulls do not have the feel of quality and the Spyder/Cayman is no stripped out race car.
You can always get your body shop to paint it gloss. Or wrap with CF.
Step up to a GT2RS and you can get carbon fibre fender vents instead of unpainted plastic. Still unpainted plastic on front lip spoiler though.
I am sure you can get red/ black leather thru CXX.
I would agree fabric handle is more like a poser weight saving move. You can save a lot more weight with radio/AC delete.
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As another aside, I was in the Lexus LC500 Convertible a few weeks ago. Cost less than the Spyder and yet material quality and fit and finish were light years ahead of the Spyder. Well equipped Spyders are around $120k and at that price point Buyers are expecting better materials....which perhaps explains why the dealer I know still....month after month, has 3 Spyders and 4 Caymen.
This thread has made me realize that, were it not for the manual gearbox issue, I think hands down I'd be exploring the new Z06 Convertible with its Ferrari like 600 hp normally aspirated flat plane crank as it will be the same money as Spyder.
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I definitely prefer the unpainted plastic lip out front given how low the car is. Having had a carbon fibre lip and a painted lip before, my butt doesn't clinch (as much) when I approach a bump or entry that has a steeper angle in the GT4. I know I'll likely scrape, but the replacement cost is only a few hundred vs. over a thousand for a new lip and/or paint. I was always envious of the GT cars having the plastic lip since you could treat it like a consumable rather than a hazard. Even the GT3/GT3 RS/GT2 RS have plastic front lips, not just the GT4/Spyder.
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I have a number of cars so I am in no hurry. Plus, I expect a more powerful version will be released midway next year. I was at the dealer yesterday and saw all the same Spyders there again. Salesman told me sales are slow. Lots of lookers not so many buyers as normal. As they say, good thing come to those who weight and sometimes patience can be a virtue!
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