Spyder718

Just check the VIN for new Spyder listings on autotrader. The MY'21 Spyder VINs are at least in the #800s by now. VIN Analytics is stuck at #633 (WP0CC2A80MS240633). Try any newer Porsche VIN with VIN Analytics. It can't decode it anymore. Not even MSRP. Any Porsche model. It's been months.

0-Day

There is a new 2021 Spyder inbound to a local dealer to me. It's VIN WP0CC2A89MS240789 . When I look it up on VINanalyitics, VA knows that a car with that VIN exists and has a bare minimum of data on it such as region and color code. But it's still missing all the build sheet data. If you watch that VIN in VA, it will eventually update itself within a few weeks. It's not that unusual for VA to be missing the build detail data for recently built or even recently delivered cars. That detail data can take weeks to populate on VA. It seems to me like either Porsche releases this data in batches or VA ingests in.batches, but not always in real time. It's certainly possible I'm wrong. (And we will find out soon!) But I still believe that the build totals on VA are still accurate, based on me obsessively watching that data for a year and a half for US GT4s and Spyders on VA

Also, note that we cannot go by the VIN numbers alone to estimate production of our cars because:
1) The VINs don't start at 0
2) The VINs are not necessarily sequential
3) For our cars, 2 cars can have the exact same VIN # with the only difference being the production plant code character. For example. WP0AC2A88MK289196 is a low option White 2021 US GT4 built at the Karman plant (VW/Audi/Porsche joint plant). But WP0AC2A88MS289196 is a high option Yellow 2021 US GT4 built at the Porsche home Stuttgart plant. Two cars with the same VIN apart from the difference in plant code in the sequence...

Spyder718

All I can say is that Porsche has "closed" a "data access" VIN Analytics has obviously been tapping into. So unless they find another way (doubtful) it's game over.

Tifosielia

I know VAG did change something in regards to how most of the online vin build sheet decoders were working. Outvin.com which is a pretty good build sheet decoder lost access to all of the VAG brands for a couple months, but now all the brands except for Porsche are up and they say Porsche will be back up in a few weeks.

Agreed, something changed but it should be fixable.

kj71109

Midwest here. 13 months of ownership now. Have not seen a 981 or 718 GT4 other than mine yet. A GT3 and couple GT3RS. Not much population where I am at, and most prefer what America has to offer.

Dan Nagy

When you are talking with your buddies about the trucks, you can quote this from Drivetribe:

”…(Toyota’s) engine and transmission are made in the U.S., and 80% of it’s parts are built in America and assembled in San Antonio Texas.” Chevy is at 65%, and Ford is at 75%.

Want to buy an American truck? Get a Toyota.

TRZ06

LOL, yep. Most cars now have parts from multiple countries. It is a global market.

All it really means now is where the corporate office is headquartered.

halfmonkey

That's the funny thing that many people don't know. The popular cars from Toyota and Honda which include the Camry, Accord, and Tundra are built in 'merica more so than some of the American vehicles coming from Ford and Chevy.

Yes, Toyota still has cars and trucks built in Japan but the people buying those cars are not concerned about the image of buying American. Landcruiser and 4Runner are still built in Japan and I wouldn't want it any other way. Those things exude quality and reliability that can't be touched and won't be touched for decades down the road.

Zhao

I believe BMW exports more cars produced by the USDM than they import to the USDM by a healthy margin. IMO BMW probably is the best manufacturer to support if you like the US economy.

helothere

in LA.

saw few other 718 spyders so far besides one at home
all different colors too,
White, GT Silver, some sort of green (assume PTS but why that color?)

not that common but also not rare either imo

wizee

Has anyone updated the spreadsheets for 2021 Spyders and GT4s, and/or made a spreadsheet for 2022 cars? It seems VIN analytics found a new data source, and is at least partially working again, though they're now charging for more detailed data.

LnC993

Here you go. These figures were from Vinanalytic and these figure are for the model year produced in USA, not the sales figure. I haven't able to find Boxster 25 year edition production number for USA yet.

wizee

Are these numbers complete? I suspect they aren’t for 2021. VIN analytics only adds VINs to their counts after they have been looked up at least once.

0-Day

False.

wizee

At least last year when I made the 2020 Spyder spreadsheet, this is how it worked. Over the course of one afternoon, I added hundreds of cars to VIN Analytics reported totals by looking up VINs that hadn't been previously looked up on it. This also happened earlier late last year when I was making some initial 2021 Spyder lists, though then Rennlisters other than me started looking up VINs sequentially.