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Old 04-02-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Torres
I haven’t seen a single GT4 or Spyder on the road. For what it’s worth I’ve barely even seen base Cayman, S, definitely no T’s or GTS.
I had never seen any Spyder or GT4 of any gen on the road ever until last year. About 1 month after I took delivery of mine, there was a 981 Spyder directly in front of me stopped at a light. Go figure. That's it. Of course a lot of this does depend on where one lives. In SoCal, SoFlo and maybe a a few other small pockets of money and car density (in the US, anyway) these are likely to be more visible. They are mostly not daily drivers. They are mostly fair weather drivers. I wonder if there is any state that has no GT4s or Spyders registered? If there are 800 Spyders, for instance, that averages to 16 per state. Take out the Cali/Florida effect and that number is likely halved, even on average. Think about how many Honda Accords are in one dealer parking lot in even some random small town dealership.
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Originally Posted by VVG
I had never seen any Spyder or GT4 of any gen on the road ever until last year. About 1 month after I took delivery of mine, there was a 981 Spyder directly in front of me stopped at a light. Go figure. That's it. Of course a lot of this does depend on where one lives. In SoCal, SoFlo and maybe a a few other small pockets of money and car density (in the US, anyway) these are likely to be more visible. They are mostly not daily drivers. They are mostly fair weather drivers. I wonder if there is any state that has no GT4s or Spyders registered? If there are 800 Spyders, for instance, that averages to 16 per state. Take out the Cali/Florida effect and that number is likely halved, even on average. Think about how many Honda Accords are in one dealer parking lot in even some random small town dealership.
Weird. I have seen 3 GT4s in the wild but no Spyders, not even the 981. Ive seen 1 GTS 4.0. This is around the DC-MD beltway corridor area. Have a Spyder on order for July.
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While not common, you see GT4s and Spyders more and more in Seattle. Both seem to be enjoying a spike in desirability, at least in the circles that I run in. I had the chance to see two Rennlist member’s cars yesterday at a cars and coffee parked right next to each other. A beautiful Python GT4 and a Chalk Spyder. It made the wait for mine even harder to accept
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Originally Posted by Jeff Jones
While not common, you see GT4s and Spyders more and more in Seattle. Both seem to be enjoying a spike in desirability, at least in the circles that I run in. I had the chance to see two Rennlist member’s cars yesterday at a cars and coffee parked right next to each other. A beautiful Python GT4 and a Chalk Spyder. It made the wait for mine even harder to accept
Those guys get around, they were recently sighted up in Port Renfrew...


Just out for a spin...

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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Those guys get around, they were recently sighted up in Port Renfrew...
Just out for a spin...
Too funny...must be a common combo!
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Apparently rare enough a Ferrari owner noticed me … was unexpected.
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In 2015 I was living in Manhattan just a block away from the old Manhattan Motorcars (my avatar pic was taken directly across the street from the dealership) and I ended up with two 981 Spyders (GRed and RSilver). Later I moved to SoCal for a job and at first stayed at my ole vacation cabin in the Lake Elsinore Area of Perris California. I thought I was incognito driving around this rural area of Southern California but on my second night at deltaco the drive thru guy looked me in the eye and said in disbelief " AND you have a red one too" like I had won lotto twice lol

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Has anyone tabulated the 2021 production for GT4's...
People refer to a list by VIN analytics but I don't seem to be able to access it.
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Originally Posted by Tifosielia
Has anyone tabulated the 2021 production for GT4's...
People refer to a list by VIN analytics but I don't seem to be able to access it.
Porsche Build Sheets and Window Stickers by VIN | VIN Analytics

You have to register and then put in your VIN. Then it gives you a whole bunch extra info
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Originally Posted by Tifosielia
Has anyone tabulated the 2021 production for GT4's...
People refer to a list by VIN analytics but I don't seem to be able to access it.
Someone posted the results few weeks ago, was 589 GT4 for MY 2021 in USA up to that point.



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Originally Posted by LnC993
Someone posted the results few weeks ago, was 589 GT4 for MY 2021 in USA up to that point.

That's pretty rare. The 2022's will probably be the same and without the Con Rod recall attached to it.

This should bode well for future resale values to hold strong.
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"Rare" is a totally relative term. Compared to what? If it's a Nissan Altima or Ford F150, then pretty rare. Or based on your location. Live in Socal? Then probably not very rare at all. Based on production numbers total Porsche production for a year is a drop in the bucket compared to what GM or Ford puts out. Heck, even Tesla is cranking out tons more cars than Porsche, including all the Cayennes and Macans. I live in N Alabama and rarely see ANY Cayman or Boxster, much less a GTS or GT4. Now my Aventurine Green Metallic GTS 4.0 is going to be extremely rare since so few are painted that color. If you rarely see one, then it's "rare."
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Final production data on 2020-21 USA spec cars based on VIN Analytics data:

764 - 2020 GT4
589 - 2021 GT4
1353 - Total 20-21 GT4

392 - 2020 Spyder
485 - 2021 Spyder
877 - Total 20-21 Spyder

Pretty rare in the modern car world!
But now if you want to own a really RARE Porsche, then you need to buy a 2020 (or 2021 to a lesser extent) Cayman T or Boxster T.


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VIN Analytics stopped working months ago. There are hundreds MY'21 cars missing. Probably 200 or more Spyder alone.
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Originally Posted by Spyder718
VIN Analytics stopped working months ago. There are hundreds MY'21 cars missing. Probably 200 or more Spyder alone.
I don't believe that is true. I think the VA data is currently fairly accurate for 2021 cars.

It's following the same data pattern as last year: Porsche assigns VINs to builds months before they are actually built. VA gets that data and interpolates the total production numbers months before the production year is complete. For example last year the 2020 model year showed the 764 2020 GT4s total in May 2020. This was before I even got an allocation for my 2020 GT4, and months before I placed my order and my car was built. Like you I assumed that the build total data on VA would continue to rise as cars are built, but that's not the way that the Porsche data that VA displays works...

Do you have another authoritative data source for the "missing" 200 2021 Spyders?

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