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Old 08-16-2020, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzlulu
So can one correctly assume that choosing the 10mm raised option is the appropriate choice for a Boxster GTS 4.0 which will be used strictly for pleasurable street driving?
The GTS 4.0 is already 10 mm higher then a 718 spyder. So choosing another 10mm will make that 20mm higher... or 10mm lower than a base 718 unoptioned.

The GTS also has a nice softer adaptive suspension option that is very comfortable for the roads.
I would personally leave it as is for comfort reasons.
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Old 08-16-2020, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Haros
The GTS 4.0 is already 10 mm higher then a 718 spyder. So choosing another 10mm will make that 20mm higher... or 10mm lower than a base 718 unoptioned.

The GTS also has a nice softer adaptive suspension option that is very comfortable for the roads.
I would personally leave it as is for comfort reasons.
I believe the softer adaptive suspension comes when selecting the 10mm option - at least that is what the description says when selecting it in the build configuration:

Raised ride height of 10 mm in relation to the standard -20 mm suspension. The stiffer anti-roll bars are replaced with softer 718 GTS anti-roll bars.”
Old 08-16-2020, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaSteve
It's probably better thought of as being lowered 10 mm from the stock 718 suspension, with the other option lowered 20 mm. I have heard from lots of people with the sport suspension (20 mm) that think it is wonderful on the street as well as the track, but 20 mm is more than I want to deal with. With the amount of bumpy roads, potholes, speed bumps ramps, etc. out there I have ordered the 10 mm option.
I have ordered a GTS 4.0 with the 10mm option also, for the reasons that you list. I have PASM (10 mm drop) with PTV on my 718 Cayman S and it is a wonderful combination. I will be using the car on the road and do not want to take a chance on the 20mm drop. Cheers!

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Old 08-16-2020, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzlulu
I believe the softer adaptive suspension comes when selecting the 10mm option - at least that is what the description says when selecting it in the build configuration:

Raised ride height of 10 mm in relation to the standard -20 mm suspension. The stiffer anti-roll bars are replaced with softer 718 GTS anti-roll bars.”
This quote is confusing. Where is it from? If the softer anti-roll bars are "718 GTS" then are the stiffer ones not "718 GTS" anti-roll bars? I think just the ride-height is changed and that's it. I would choose the -10mm option only if I had major scraping problems with the driveway. The GTS 4.0 at -20mm is already 10mm higher than the Spyder and it has a higher lip as well. I'd stick with the height that Porsche chose as standard. PASM is great for toggling between rough and smooth roads and the standard height will be plenty comfortable for any road. If that's not comfortable enough, then you don't need a sports car, get a cruiser. Porsche knows what they are doing. It never even occurred to me to pick the 10mm option.

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Old 08-16-2020, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
This quote is confusing. Where is it from?
It is from the Porsche website in the Boxster GTS build configurator
Old 08-16-2020, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
This quote is confusing. Where is it from? If the softer anti-roll bars are "718 GTS" then are the stiffer ones not "718 GTS" anti-roll bars? I think just the ride-height is changed and that's it. I would choose the -10mm option only if I had major scraping problems with the driveway. The GTS 4.0 at -20mm is already 10mm higher than the Spyder and it has a higher lip as well. I'd stick with the height that Porsche chose as standard. PASM is great for toggling between rough and smooth roads and the standard height will be plenty comfortable for any road. If that's not comfortable enough, then you don't need a sports car, get a cruiser. Porsche knows what they are doing. It never even occurred to me to pick the 10mm option.
Porsche's choice for the the standard suspension in the 718 Base and S is 10 mm higher than that for the "cruiser option". What does that make the those cars? To each his own.
Old 08-16-2020, 07:44 PM
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Technical specs are hard to find on the Porsche website as some models have them listed while others do not.
The 911 Carrera S lists a ground clearance of 4.9" while the Boxster GTS 4.0 lists a ground clearance of 4.4". That is a full 1/2" lower. Even with the -10mm option it is still lower than the Carrera S. In other words not bad for the street?
Old 08-16-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OttawaSteve
Porsche's choice for the the standard suspension in the 718 Base and S is 10 mm higher than that for the "cruiser option". What does that make the those cars? To each his own.
Of course, there is a spectrum of softness/comfort/height and each of us can find their sweet spot on it. I just wouldn't immediately assume that the standard GTS 4.0 suspension isn't "street friendly" especially given that PASM is already adjustable. Softness/comfort/height comes at a cost in terms of lost sports car feel, handling, and enjoyment. If it didn't, then we'd all choose MB S-class as the most "street friendly" car and be done with it.
Old 08-16-2020, 08:17 PM
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Could someone enlighten me on the "V210 - Change Freeze Point reached" vehicle status on the build sheet? I submitted a few changes to my dealer and he said - hey, review the changes made since your build locks very soon. The build schedule that he provided a few weeks ago had the V250 build lock as 9/11, enter body shop 9/25, completion 10/2, delivery 12/4. I'm a bit surprised to hear about this V210 status? Any of you guys have a build schedule with an early Sept V250 that are hearing your up against a lock? Thanks
Old 08-16-2020, 09:06 PM
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FWIW I was at the dealer last week and have a Sept 7th freeze date, same delivery date as you. .He told me emphatically not to wait until the last minute to lock it down. I am going to lock mine in this week. BUT a 20+ day advance on the freeze looks a bit odd, perhaps a call or e-mail to your SA in the first order of business ASAP to get the facts. Good luck, I hope it is a miscommunication/ glitch.
Old 08-17-2020, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Of course, there is a spectrum of softness/comfort/height and each of us can find their sweet spot on it. I just wouldn't immediately assume that the standard GTS 4.0 suspension isn't "street friendly" especially given that PASM is already adjustable. Softness/comfort/height comes at a cost in terms of lost sports car feel, handling, and enjoyment. If it didn't, then we'd all choose MB S-class as the most "street friendly" car and be done with it.
I had a 718 Cayman S with 10mm drop and now have the GTS 4.0 with 20mm drop. 20mm is only very slightly more firm, not a huge difference at all. Both will smooth over bumpy roads no problem without the suspension being crashy. It's only the worst potholes or bumps that will put a real jolt through the suspension and that will happen with both settings.

I would say that when pushing on down a fairly bumpy country road the GTS with -20mm actually feels slightly more composed. That could be down to the other changes the GTS has over the S though. The only time it has felt a little bit more wild than I would expect is under hard acceleration over uneven surfaces at much higher speeds. This might be a mental thing though because of needing to take a hand off the steering wheel to change gear (vs PDK in my previous car). Also I only have 750 miles on the car at the moment so I'm not going too hard on it.
Old 08-17-2020, 11:43 AM
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I had a 2016 M-3 that was really crashy on anything other than the smoothest roads. I found it really detracted from the experience of the car. I don’t want a repeat on my GTS, which is why I’m looking at the posts about the difference between the 20mm and the 10mm PASM options so closely. Really appreciate the real-world analyses of the drivers on here to help me make my choice.
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Old 08-17-2020, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wcprice
I had a 2016 M-3 that was really crashy on anything other than the smoothest roads. I found it really detracted from the experience of the car. I don’t want a repeat on my GTS, which is why I’m looking at the posts about the difference between the 20mm and the 10mm PASM options so closely. Really appreciate the real-world analyses of the drivers on here to help me make my choice.
Porsche suspensions are MUCH better than M cars when it comes to tougher roads. That (along with steering feel) are two of the things BMW have struggled most with in recent years.
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Originally Posted by gator2015GTS
Could someone enlighten me on the "V210 - Change Freeze Point reached" vehicle status on the build sheet? I submitted a few changes to my dealer and he said - hey, review the changes made since your build locks very soon. The build schedule that he provided a few weeks ago had the V250 build lock as 9/11, enter body shop 9/25, completion 10/2, delivery 12/4. I'm a bit surprised to hear about this V210 status? Any of you guys have a build schedule with an early Sept V250 that are hearing your up against a lock? Thanks
FWIW I was at the dealer today and Porsche has moved my freeze date BACK from Sept 7 to Sept 18.-11 days. I was told it was a change in production scheduling, perhaps they or the vendors are still adjusting to the Covid matter / holidays/ who knows? Enters body shop 10/2. Delivery date remains the same-Dec.4th.
I hope you get an answer to your question about moving the freeze date forward.
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How is the -20mm in the sport setting?


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