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Tough decision. On one hand, the Spyder’s better looks, GT3 suspension, beefier tires/brakes, more freebie trim options and smaller depreciation make the $8400 diff a bargain. On another hand, the Boxster GTS 4.0’s power roof, lighter/smaller brakes, lighter/narrower wheels, and suspension make it more optimal for backroads. One with pccb and lwbs comes the closest to the lightweight roadster ethos.
If only the 718 Spyder wasn’t the best looking modern Porsche in decades. And Python Green is now available for the Spyder too.
If only the 718 Spyder wasn’t the best looking modern Porsche in decades. And Python Green is now available for the Spyder too.
I was torn between a Cayman GTS 4.0 and a GT4. With what I wanted, the GT4 was about $10k more.
I figured if I was spending over $100k on a Cayman it better be a GT4!!
On the other hand, I would pick the Boxster GTS 4.0 over a Spyder every time.
I guess that's why they make sixty or so variants?
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When are the first cars scheduled to show up in any case? It'd be great to get a look (and maybe even a drive) at one at the dealer this fall before ordering.
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At least that’s what the dealers have told those of us who have ordered.
Pretty crappy time for a test drive where I’m from.
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Lol... Actually enjoying the process. Have deposits on both and wouldn’t need one until next Spring anyway. And not exactly suffering with my 987 Boxster S either. Maybe this “process” is just my subconscious telling me that what I already have may be better than both modern alternatives.
otherwise, just keep the 987S for days with ambiguous weather and have the Spyder for fair weather conditions
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between Spyder n GTS4.0, the more expensive Spyder obviously has a superior spec but based on your “I must be able to put the roof up and down quickly”, the GTS4.0 is the one that fits your application,.. the extra Spyder bits are awesome but who cares if your interior suffers water damage coz u can’t lift the roof quickly enough.
otherwise, just keep the 987S for days with ambiguous weather and have the Spyder for fair weather conditions
otherwise, just keep the 987S for days with ambiguous weather and have the Spyder for fair weather conditions
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I actually find the Spyder to be a perfect car in a multi-car garage. Yes, it is a little less practical than a coupe or auto roof vert but if one is willing to compromise or has an alternate car to use for those circumstances, a top down manual Spyder on a crisp morning through some tight twisters is very hard to beat. Coupled with a track focussed coupe like a GT3 and almost all bases are covered.
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hang on... just noticed you have a 996 GT3... surely coupling that with the Spyder should cover your bases?
I actually find the Spyder to be a perfect car in a multi-car garage. Yes, it is a little less practical than a coupe or auto roof vert but if one is willing to compromise or has an alternate car to use for those circumstances, a top down manual Spyder on a crisp morning through some tight twisters is very hard to beat. Coupled with a track focussed coupe like a GT3 and almost all bases are covered.
I actually find the Spyder to be a perfect car in a multi-car garage. Yes, it is a little less practical than a coupe or auto roof vert but if one is willing to compromise or has an alternate car to use for those circumstances, a top down manual Spyder on a crisp morning through some tight twisters is very hard to beat. Coupled with a track focussed coupe like a GT3 and almost all bases are covered.
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hang on... just noticed you have a 996 GT3... surely coupling that with the Spyder should cover your bases?
I actually find the Spyder to be a perfect car in a multi-car garage. Yes, it is a little less practical than a coupe or auto roof vert but if one is willing to compromise or has an alternate car to use for those circumstances, a top down manual Spyder on a crisp morning through some tight twisters is very hard to beat. Coupled with a track focussed coupe like a GT3 and almost all bases are covered.
I actually find the Spyder to be a perfect car in a multi-car garage. Yes, it is a little less practical than a coupe or auto roof vert but if one is willing to compromise or has an alternate car to use for those circumstances, a top down manual Spyder on a crisp morning through some tight twisters is very hard to beat. Coupled with a track focussed coupe like a GT3 and almost all bases are covered.
Again, if only the Spyder wasn’t so darn gorgeous, now also offered in Python Green...
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Originally Posted by hf1
The GTS 4.0 would better complement the raw 996 GT3. Daily good wine + weekly stiff single malt. Neither would be tracked as I have a race car for that. My 987 Boxster S’s (this is my second one) have been the most driven strictly fun/backroads cars I’ve owned. While a car like that typically gets 1-2k miles/yr, the Boxster clocks close to 5k miles/yr of pure backroads fun. Without the auto-top, that would likely be cut to less than half and bring it down to 6gt3 level.
Again, if only the Spyder wasn’t so darn gorgeous, now also offered in Python Green...
Again, if only the Spyder wasn’t so darn gorgeous, now also offered in Python Green...
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I'll never understand the auto top thing... I guess everyone uses their cars differently, but the thought of being concerned about occasionally having to open or close the roof is asinine to me. It's one thing if it's a DD, but for a fun car, it's just never bothered me in the slightest...
Even though Porsche FINALLY put the top 4.0 engine in an auto-top Boxster it still bugs me that they have to neuter its HP and suspension just to keep the manual top Spyder on top. Why not just make the same car with both auto and manual top?
Last edited by hf1; 07-16-2020 at 09:50 AM.
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I open/close the auto-top on my “just for fun” Boxster on average at least 2x per run (closer to 3x) even on a perfect sunny day. Gravel road, coffee stop, lunch, tennis parking, gym parking, swimming pool parking, grocery stop, errand, highway stretch, road construction, dirty truck, summer sprinkle, you name it. I make a mental note about how great it is to have it (instead of having to stop, park, and dance around the car) every time I use it. But I also put 5k miles/yr on backroads with my fun cars and that’s with Winters (5 months) off. Since I’d probably have the LWBS, the bolsters would get worn that much faster if I have to get out of the car just to open/close the top. Different perspectives...
Even though Porsche FINALLY put the top 4.0 engine in an auto-top Boxster it still bugs me that they have to neuter its HP and suspension just to keep the manual top Spyder on top. Why not just make the same car with both auto and manual top?
Even though Porsche FINALLY put the top 4.0 engine in an auto-top Boxster it still bugs me that they have to neuter its HP and suspension just to keep the manual top Spyder on top. Why not just make the same car with both auto and manual top?
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I open/close the auto-top on my “just for fun” Boxster on average at least 2x per run (closer to 3x) even on a perfect sunny day. Gravel road, coffee stop, lunch, tennis parking, gym parking, swimming pool parking, grocery stop, errand, highway stretch, road construction, dirty truck, summer sprinkle, you name it. I make a mental note about how great it is to have it (instead of having to stop, park, and dance around the car) every time I use it. But I also put 5k miles/yr on backroads with my fun cars and that’s with Winters (5 months) off. Since I’d probably have the LWBS, the bolsters would get worn that much faster if I have to get out of the car just to open/close the top. Different perspectives...
Even though Porsche FINALLY put the top 4.0 engine in an auto-top Boxster it still bugs me that they have to neuter its HP and suspension just to keep the manual top Spyder on top. Why not just make the same car with both auto and manual top?
Even though Porsche FINALLY put the top 4.0 engine in an auto-top Boxster it still bugs me that they have to neuter its HP and suspension just to keep the manual top Spyder on top. Why not just make the same car with both auto and manual top?
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Sure, but why must the top model only come with a manual top? Just as it comes with manual or PDK, sofas or lwbs, irons or pccb, it could also come with a manual or auto top. They can even keep the humps and wings exclusive to the manual top if it’s too difficult to automate them — just keep the rest of the car and options the same.