718 GT4RS
08-03-2021, 09:48 PM
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08-04-2021, 05:38 PM
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If its the same engine or pert near close... the GT4RS wont be worth the premium for most. You will be able to upgrade of find mods to get you 95%. But.... if the engine is a different one or significantly improved, then it might be worth it. Ive stopped all mods on my GT4 waiting to see what the RS comes with. I have an allocation so I will get it if its a much better engine. If not, then I will just look for RS parts if they make sense. Ive got my GT4 pretty dialed in now for the street. The last thing would be headers, an ecu tune and a few more suspension bits and that would be about my limit.
08-04-2021, 07:09 PM
#1953
If its the same engine or pert near close... the GT4RS wont be worth the premium for most. You will be able to upgrade of find mods to get you 95%. But.... if the engine is a different one or significantly improved, then it might be worth it. Ive stopped all mods on my GT4 waiting to see what the RS comes with. I have an allocation so I will get it if its a much better engine. If not, then I will just look for RS parts if they make sense. Ive got my GT4 pretty dialed in now for the street. The last thing would be headers, an ecu tune and a few more suspension bits and that would be about my limit.
Looks like you will be keeping your GT4......
08-04-2021, 08:54 PM
#1954
Burning Brakes
If its the same engine or pert near close... the GT4RS wont be worth the premium for most. You will be able to upgrade of find mods to get you 95%. But.... if the engine is a different one or significantly improved, then it might be worth it. Ive stopped all mods on my GT4 waiting to see what the RS comes with. I have an allocation so I will get it if its a much better engine. If not, then I will just look for RS parts if they make sense. Ive got my GT4 pretty dialed in now for the street. The last thing would be headers, an ecu tune and a few more suspension bits and that would be about my limit.
08-04-2021, 09:22 PM
#1955
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08-04-2021, 09:32 PM
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08-04-2021, 11:45 PM
#1957
Here's a thought.
1. It is known trhat the 992 model has room in PDK for an electric motor plus room provided under seats for a battery
2. Porsche decides to make the 992.1 RS it's first hybridised 911. Would be announced and relaease in 2022. Maybe 550-580 PS to make it faster than 992.1 GT3 after hybrid weight penalty.
3. Porsche will sell most of it's 992.1 GT3 manufacturing run this year and early 2022.
4. The 992.2 GT3 will be hybridised.
5. The 992.1 RS creats power headroom for the GT4RS which will be the last straight NA model Porsche produces. The new Cayman to be either a hybrid or 100% EV.
6. The above scenario allows Porsche to make a GT4 RS with up to 500 PS. Achieveable with a 8100 rpm rev limit but with a bore to take it to 4.3 L.
7. Car sells like hot cakes at an enormous margin for Porsche.
Just idle thinking down here in locked-down Sydney
1. It is known trhat the 992 model has room in PDK for an electric motor plus room provided under seats for a battery
2. Porsche decides to make the 992.1 RS it's first hybridised 911. Would be announced and relaease in 2022. Maybe 550-580 PS to make it faster than 992.1 GT3 after hybrid weight penalty.
3. Porsche will sell most of it's 992.1 GT3 manufacturing run this year and early 2022.
4. The 992.2 GT3 will be hybridised.
5. The 992.1 RS creats power headroom for the GT4RS which will be the last straight NA model Porsche produces. The new Cayman to be either a hybrid or 100% EV.
6. The above scenario allows Porsche to make a GT4 RS with up to 500 PS. Achieveable with a 8100 rpm rev limit but with a bore to take it to 4.3 L.
7. Car sells like hot cakes at an enormous margin for Porsche.
Just idle thinking down here in locked-down Sydney
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08-05-2021, 12:57 AM
#1958
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Originally Posted by Warwick Morris
Here's a thought.
1. It is known trhat the 992 model has room in PDK for an electric motor plus room provided under seats for a battery
2. Porsche decides to make the 992.1 RS it's first hybridised 911. Would be announced and relaease in 2022. Maybe 550-580 PS to make it faster than 992.1 GT3 after hybrid weight penalty.
3. Porsche will sell most of it's 992.1 GT3 manufacturing run this year and early 2022.
4. The 992.2 GT3 will be hybridised.
5. The 992.1 RS creats power headroom for the GT4RS which will be the last straight NA model Porsche produces. The new Cayman to be either a hybrid or 100% EV.
6. The above scenario allows Porsche to make a GT4 RS with up to 500 PS. Achieveable with a 8100 rpm rev limit but with a bore to take it to 4.3 L.
7. Car sells like hot cakes at an enormous margin for Porsche.
Just idle thinking down here in locked-down Sydney
1. It is known trhat the 992 model has room in PDK for an electric motor plus room provided under seats for a battery
2. Porsche decides to make the 992.1 RS it's first hybridised 911. Would be announced and relaease in 2022. Maybe 550-580 PS to make it faster than 992.1 GT3 after hybrid weight penalty.
3. Porsche will sell most of it's 992.1 GT3 manufacturing run this year and early 2022.
4. The 992.2 GT3 will be hybridised.
5. The 992.1 RS creats power headroom for the GT4RS which will be the last straight NA model Porsche produces. The new Cayman to be either a hybrid or 100% EV.
6. The above scenario allows Porsche to make a GT4 RS with up to 500 PS. Achieveable with a 8100 rpm rev limit but with a bore to take it to 4.3 L.
7. Car sells like hot cakes at an enormous margin for Porsche.
Just idle thinking down here in locked-down Sydney
But #7. You're correct on.. will sell like hot cakes.
08-05-2021, 03:44 PM
#1959
So with that in mind, and considering this RS may well be the swan song for the entire 981/982 generation... it's probably better to compare it to a GT2RS. And that had a bigger power bump.
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08-05-2021, 04:14 PM
#1960
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The GT4 already broke the mold when it was first released in the 981 version. A GT3 doesn't have aluminum wing uprights or straps for door handles. Those have always been RS things. But the GT4 had them right out of the gate.
So with that in mind, and considering this RS may well be the swan song for the entire 981/982 generation... it's probably better to compare it to a GT2RS. And that had a bigger power bump.
So with that in mind, and considering this RS may well be the swan song for the entire 981/982 generation... it's probably better to compare it to a GT2RS. And that had a bigger power bump.
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08-05-2021, 06:56 PM
#1961
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Putting aside the history of Porsche and the Cayman/911, why would an automobile company sell under a GT4 moniker, a car that is faster than a GT3, when the racing series of GT3s are faster than GT4s (GT2 faster than GT3) etc. Wishing the GT4 RS is as fast as the GT3 as much as the next guy, but it makes zero marketing sense when considering in racing what GT2>GT3>GT4 actually means in terms of speed/capablity differential. Then you add the history of the Cayman vs the 911 and I think only one logical conclusion makes the most sense.
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08-05-2021, 07:04 PM
#1962
Putting aside the history of Porsche and the Cayman/911, why would an automobile company sell under a GT4 moniker, a car that is faster than a GT3, when the racing series of GT3s are faster than GT4s (GT2 faster than GT3) etc. Wishing the GT4 RS is as fast as the GT3 as much as the next guy, but it makes zero marketing sense when considering in racing what GT2>GT3>GT4 actually means in terms of speed/capablity differential. Then you add the history of the Cayman vs the 911 and I think only one logical conclusion makes the most sense.
Performance will be better than the GT4 but less than the GT3. Horsepower isn't the only measure of performance so this will extend beyond hp "wars" to things such as downforce, lap times, etc. Still sticking with 425hp to maybe 450hp and an extreme maybe to stretch it out just a tad beyond 450hp.
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08-06-2021, 02:18 AM
#1963
Stay safe.
08-06-2021, 10:00 AM
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08-06-2021, 02:17 PM
#1965
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Small detail.. but I hope the GT4RS keeps a clean no-button wheel.. I dislike the volume controls and other stuff which is now even on the 992 GT3 wheel.
EDIT: I just realized the absurdity of my post.. if it's on GT3 wheel it's now on GT4... I so loved the clean pretty wheel from 981/991 GT series
EDIT: I just realized the absurdity of my post.. if it's on GT3 wheel it's now on GT4... I so loved the clean pretty wheel from 981/991 GT series
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