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Old 07-30-2021, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by metalone
Yesterday I watched this video and Janko referred to an Spyder RS like it was a sure thing... I haven't read anything about an Spyder RS and doubt that Porsche would put more R&D budget for something that is meant to be a B-Road weapon not a track weapon.

Is there real evidence that an Spyder RS is on the table?
Hmmmm, Spyder RS interesting, B-Road cruiser? I have yet to watch the video but other than more power what else could it be, no top at all aka BergSpyder?

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Old 07-30-2021, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by metalone
Yesterday I watched this video and Janko referred to an Spyder RS like it was a sure thing... I haven't read anything about an Spyder RS and doubt that Porsche would put more R&D budget for something that is meant to be a B-Road weapon not a track weapon.

Is there real evidence that an Spyder RS is on the table?
Given that they turned the GT3 into the latest Speedster, which was way more effort then adding some RS bits onto the existing Boxster Spyder, I'd say this argument doesn't hold much water.
The best scenario for the platform would be if they made the GT4RS available to way more people and made a Spyder RS a limited numbered car to rake in the dollars. Then everyone wins.
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Old 07-30-2021, 11:20 PM
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If the name existed historically, Porsche is more likely to do it IMO... 550 RS Spyder
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It seems like an easy $$$ grab... I bet we see it.
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Old 07-30-2021, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
If the name existed historically, Porsche is more likely to do it IMO... 550 RS Spyder
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It seems like an easy $$$ grab... I bet we see it.
Porsche already did that with the RS60.
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Old 07-31-2021, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JCR-Porsche
The 718 Gt4 in stock form has a hyper restrictive exhaust, these gains are a function of well functioning parts but also a big portion of the gain is simply optimising an intentionally restrictive exhaust system. Gains to be found from exhaust systems now are larger than ever thanks to latest EU emissions and drive by noise regs
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I personally don't, dyno numbers are meaningless on their own. Though JCR have posted the 50 whp over stock dyno on a separate thread already anyway. A Dragy run showing the slope and climatic data is the gold standard as far as I'm concerned. Beats running on primitive dynos and using fuzzy math for the crank power any day of the week.
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Old 08-01-2021, 01:10 PM
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Is anyone knowledgeable able to elaborate if the modifications introduced with the RS will be transferred to the racing version of the GT4 (Clubsport).
The swan neck supports are already in the GT 4 track package and will be used also on the RS, the side inlets are part of the MR package ( I believe) and will come also on the RS... Any other commonality?
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Old 08-01-2021, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cebe
Is anyone knowledgeable able to elaborate if the modifications introduced with the RS will be transferred to the racing version of the GT4 (Clubsport).
The swan neck supports are already in the GT 4 track package and will be used also on the RS, the side inlets are part of the MR package ( I believe) and will come also on the RS... Any other commonality?
They already make a SRO package for the Side Inlets for the Clubsports....and I believe the 718 Clubsport comes with swan neck supports
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Old 08-02-2021, 01:04 PM
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Paddock speculation is that there will be an "evo" kit sometime soon to help make the 718 more competitive, and it'd make marketing sense to correlate the Evo release with the RS release, but my cleaning lady is hard of hearing and sometimes doesn't get things right.
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Old 08-02-2021, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by raymort
If the 4RS has this performance, it should outrun the 992 GT3 on many tracks!
Why do you suppose that? Same weight as GT3 with 10ps less, smaller tires, and strut suspension (vs. multi-link rear and double-wishbone front)?

I wouldn't give away the GT3 allocation just yet (but GT4RS might be a better value)...
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Old 08-02-2021, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by raymort
140k euro would still make it 165k USD for the base! More than a new base GT3.
No, you can't make a currency comparison like that. The German price for a GT3 is 171k Euros and US price is $161k.
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Old 08-02-2021, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
No, you can't make a currency comparison like that. The German price for a GT3 is 171k Euros and US price is $161k.
Does the German pricing include the tax? In US tax is added on later depending on the state you are located in.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:07 PM
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Does the German pricing include the tax? In US tax is added on later depending on the state you are located in.
Yes, that is a part of the problem with currency conversion.
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Old 08-02-2021, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sobiloff
Paddock speculation is that there will be an "evo" kit sometime soon to help make the 718 more competitive, and it'd make marketing sense to correlate the Evo release with the RS release, but my cleaning lady is hard of hearing and sometimes doesn't get things right.
Yep I’ve been saying this and it’s my understanding also that RS will be launched along side new 718 CS race car for 2022 race season.
Could be that the 718CS now moves to the 4.0 as well.
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Old 08-02-2021, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
No, you can't make a currency comparison like that. The German price for a GT3 is 171k Euros and US price is $161k.
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Yes, that is a part of the problem with currency conversion.
And then there is the equipment level. The US version has some that are optional in the German version.

But right now a 1:1 is possible since 1 Euro = $1.19 which as luck would have kind of cancels out the German VAT.
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Old 08-02-2021, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
And then there is the equipment level. The US version has some that are optional in the German version.

But right now a 1:1 is possible since 1 Euro = $1.19 which as luck would have kind of cancels out the German VAT.
We still pay fewer US dollars here than Germans pay Euros ($10k less on GT3). Equipment levels are very similar (but no option for Clubsport here). Even though Euro was worth $1.25 when the GT3 was announced.

If 4RS costs 140k Euros in Germany, should be low $130k’s here (not $165k).
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