Bearrun21

A fine way to bring back some 'positive vibes' to this thread! And yes, let's keep track of the small victories; stay hopeful to see this thread 'come alive' with reports of USA allocations in the first week of May!

welikethetrack

This is what makes logical sense for Porsche. To basically take the last 718's they're going to make and just pump out GT4rs (as I think they'll do) because it makes them so much more profit margin.

I think there will technically be a 2023 gt4/spyder, but it will be just like the 2019 gt3. Just the last runoff from 2022 as they sunset the 718 and just pump out the GT4rs money maker, they know the demand (and potential profit) is massive.

F1-DNA

Or kill off the base cayman and only produce both GT4/Spyder and GT4rs to make even more money. There factory can handle a lot more than just the GT4rs even with the conversation to an EV production line.

Porsche loves to play with the want but can’t have situation too.

TXshaggy

They won’t kill off the T4 cars because of certain markets.

The factory output on the combined 992/982 line is not “unlimited”…they just can’t make more because they “want to”.

Making room for RS means less of something else.

They won’t clip 992 production either.

We’ve seen 3 quarters of declining US 718 deliveries while 992 remain steady or increase…perhaps there is a clue there.

CaptainSlowly

Aren’t the 718 also made in Osnabrueck? That shouldn’t impact 992 production

TXshaggy

Yes, some Caymans (including GT4s) are produced in the VW facility and get a K in the VIN.

All 718 drop tops are made in Stuttgart.

usctrojanGT3

Because GT cars are more profitable than regular 911s.

popcornten

I feel like I always hear competing opinions that GT4’s are either “loss leaders” and Porsche doesn’t make any money on them or that GT cars are the most profitable models. I would assume GT cars are highly profitable but I wonder what the truth is.

Adrift

lol Exactly. Since so many people talk like they’re authorities on things (even subjective ones), who knows what the truth is.

mp2day

if I were a betting man, this would be my bet: 718 4.0 continues in MY23 and the MSRP goes up significantly.

Maybe I won’t feel so bad about the premium I paid on a 2021 CPO when MY23 $ come out…

mp2day

Yup.

production capacity is finite

dmk2

Have there been any updates on the next round of allocations?

Bearrun21

Yes, sir.

For 718 cars, US dealers expect allocations the first week of May.

dmk2

Thank you. That is very helpful.

Adrift

But we have no sense of what 718 models they will be, right?